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right everybody yeah how you doing we

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took yesterday off the Eclipse we drove

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night over here it's Tuesday tonight

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now fàbregas is here man how cool is

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fàbregas man I've been listening to him

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for so many years and to to hear his

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voice yeah how cool is that man we got

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metal on the show tonight

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I just posted pictures up in Twitter of

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my new skull and there it is sacred

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skulls judy judy kayo is an amazing

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artist and this thing opens it's got

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this key I'm all tied in right now but

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it's got this key and it goes in the

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bottom and in this little keyhole right

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there and this section here with all the

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inlays that actually opens up swivels

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and you can put stuff in there

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yeah there it is one of a kind

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is that amazing so anyway you can get

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yours I posted up some other pictures

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too as well very very cool what a great

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guy and links to his website

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so anyway I'm good to go I'm just

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looking at things here after taking so

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many days off takes a minute to get

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acclimated again it's like what are we

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doing it was that that that that much

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fun up there and I hope you did too I

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hope you had a good time and you had a

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chance to peep out the eclipse yesterday

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so there you go we go live here in two

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minutes

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and tonight Mel fàbregas Veritas radio

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this radio for the masses headliner

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believe July 8 1947 beyond the airport

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through peasant ops and applying there -

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found and there's now in the possession

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of the otter the game is rigged change

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the game game changer I occasionally

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think how quickly our differences

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worldwide would vanish if we were facing

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fade to black with your host Jimmy

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church on the GameChanger radio network

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I need your help to get to the

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you're listening to painted black with

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fade to black the smoke radio for the

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yeah man how you doin fade to black

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alright alright

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today's Tuesday August 22nd

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two hundred and thirty days into the new

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year just 130 days left we are live from

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a bunker somewhere in downtown Burbank

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California and I would like to welcome

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everybody listening all around the world

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all across the United States hither and

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thither to and fro back and forth up and

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down east and west north and south far

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and near

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this is fade to black yeah I'm getting

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text right now baby Martin's listening

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to me hey Martin are you wearing your

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fade to black shirt right now all right

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tonight all right

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for kjc are the game changer network and

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kgr aid the planet I'm your host Jimmy

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Church what is going on did you have a

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good Eclipse day yesterday we did we did

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it up at Mount Shasta more on that in

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just a bit and depending on where you

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were in the country you know I'm sure

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you got a little piece of something no

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matter what but the closer you were to

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that track the more fantastical it got

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and we were right there and it was up

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pretty amazing pretty amazing so we'll

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talk about that in just a minute

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so that was yesterday so we took the day

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off we rolled back into LA last night at

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about 1:30 a.m. and yeah we we chose to

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drive there and back to Mount Shasta

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because there's no easy way in and out

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to go inside of California we would have

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had to have take change planes twice and

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still rented a car and still drove two

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hours so by the time we were all done if

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we chose to fly it would have been a

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nine nine and a half hour trip so we

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just thought let's just pack up the car

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we'll take Teddy which we did and and we

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drove up and it was it was just a great

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time road trip road trip nine and a half

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hours straight to no breaks a couple of

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rest stops and that was it

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pounded nine and a half hours on the

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road very cool though and

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and right after everything that was done

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yesterday and did another panel we

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turned around and came back I will uh

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I'll address all of this in a minute but

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tonight tonight on the show Mel fàbregas

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is with us and host of veteran host a

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Veritas radio so its Veritas on f2b it's

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kind of like what I'm calling it

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we've been all of us have been listening

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to Mel over the years just a great

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interviewer a great style a great way of

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looking at the world but you know what I

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and I thought about this I don't know if

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I've ever heard Mel interviewed yeah so

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there you go tonight will be host to

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Veritas radio on fade to black it's

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gonna be an excellent conversation so

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looking forward to this such a cool guy

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so tonight Mel a fàbregas is here

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tomorrow night

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Brad Olson is gonna be here we're gonna

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do a total eclipse show tomorrow night

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he he was up in Idaho he got the full

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Eclipse yesterday and so we're gonna do

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that tomorrow night with Brad and a

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couple of other special guests tomorrow

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night so dial in for that and then

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Thursday it is the return of Ralph Ellis

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Adam and Eve as only Ralph Ellis can do

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it so that's gonna be Thursday night get

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ready for that we will have Jon

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Rappoport don't you freak out Jon

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Rappoport will be here with us no more

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fake newsroom live don't forget to

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simple enough at Jay Church radio

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everything is on Facebook and YouTube

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everything is fade to black or Jimmy

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Church Jimmy Church radio something

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game-changer network you can go find it

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follow like and subscribe over on our

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website now a couple of housecleaning

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apparently we may have a missing episode

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that and because I went and looked my

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issues everything is there but I'm gonna

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tomorrow but I think if somebody is

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saying that Epis in the membership area

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there we'll figure that out if you guys

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have seen a missing episode from last

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week because I know everything is there

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up in I heart everything is you know

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what I mean everything is there so I'm

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not sure and I'm gonna take a peek

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tomorrow but if you've seen anything

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missing let me know okay

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all right we've been a little bit backed

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and all of the housecleaning here all of

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the ketchup that we need to do will be

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done over the next 24 to 48 hours so if

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you've been waiting for something if we

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double shipped you and didn't ship to

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somebody else I got all kinda bout that

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you send stuff to me twice okay I get

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that we're gonna do an immense amount of

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few days dialing that stuff in okay

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because we had a water heater that blew

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ok email throughout the show Jimmy at

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Jimmy Church radio.com very simple

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subscribe to our podcast you can become

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to the website and pick your poison the

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sacred skulls and I just there it is for

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all of you fate or not so I'm showing it

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in the camera there's my sacred skull

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Judah Kyle look at that he is an artiste

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real artist so we've got that stuff up

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here let me see if I can get this link

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up here one more time there it is sacred

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skulls I'm putting this up in Twitter

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right now unbelievable artist and I

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can't wait to get him on the show it's

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just a guy like this where it takes him

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two years to do one of these skulls two

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all one-of-a-kind and they're absolutely

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incredible so go and check out sacred

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skulls and the link is right there okay

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ah let's get this show cracking right

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now happy birthday to today Kristen Wiig

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is 44 Cindy Williams today is 70 of

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course you played Shirley Feeney on

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Laverne and Shirley and great by the way

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in American Graffiti both films

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Valerie Harper today is 78 I can't

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The Mary Tyler Moore Show then they did

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this spin-off show Rhoda right Valerie

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our dead guys birthday today is layne

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there he go Lane if you're listening

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happy birthday on this day in history

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happened 1992 the incident at Ruby Ridge

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second day of the standoff at Randy

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Weaver's remote northern Idaho cabin FBI

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sharpshooter LAN horiuchi wounds Randy

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wife Vicky on this day in 1992 Vader

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fact in 1986 a Soviet pilot made a bet

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airplane with an instrument only

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plane killing 70 of the 94 passengers

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and crew that were on board that is a

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fader fact alright tonight we have Mel

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fàbregas on with us host of Veritas

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tonight I'm fade to black

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tomorrow night we're gonna do a total

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eclipse special we're gonna have some a

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few special guests down with his Umbra

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Tolson it's gonna be here he was up an

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Idaho he got the full Eclipse so we're

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gonna talk about Eclipse history and in

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the event yesterday and what we went

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through we would love to hear from you

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too as well and we will talk about our

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experiences and what happened with us

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okay but tonight it is mellow fàbregas

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on Thursday night Ralph Ellison's gonna

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be here live from Europe and John rabe

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reports gonna be here too as well all

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right all right let's let's have a

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conversation

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over the weekend Sunday morning Bill

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Tompkins past and at 2:00 a.m. now we

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were together up there bill

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bill died at the age of a 94 he had a

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heart attack and so he had a blood they

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call it a blood tumor blood clot and

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they took him off of life support it

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happened here in Southern California and

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he passed away at 2:00 a.m. the it's

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it's it's crazy that he passed on the

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day the Eclipse the morning of and that

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that was interesting but also we were

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doing the Eclipse of disclosure

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conference up at Mount Shasta and his

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name was mentioned all weekend long

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crying in and Bill and Bill and Bill and

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it was it was just great and then he

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chose to chose to chose to go and leave

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this planet and it it was sad because he

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was part of everybody's conversations up

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there all weekend and then you know just

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caught everybody by surprise so we did

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did a little prayer we did a little

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meditation and we were doing the sky

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watch when the announcement had come in

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and and at that moment I spin around I

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said the next thing that we see we will

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we'll call it the Thompkins 2017 object

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and right as I said that and it was

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right as I said I spin around look up

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shooting star just blast it across the

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sky and that was a trip that was a trip

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so I want a little toast to Bill

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and I don't want everybody to be sad

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because being sad is the wrong way to go

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he lived in 94 94 he did he did

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everything his way throughout his life

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and he will be talked about for decades

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and decades to come

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he left us with a vast body of research

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and knowledge and tools for us to

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continue and it affected Cory as it

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should it affect it David as it should

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because they were working together and

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and supporting each other and writing

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books and plans and doing things he was

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just at the MUFON symposium last month

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and was was all good it was all good but

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he passed away over the weekend and

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there were some rumors going around that

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you know but I will I will say this I

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mm-hmm that him going to the edge of the

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cliff like he did he went to the edge he

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took life to the edge he took his foot

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he stuck it out there in the dark and

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felt the edge of the cliff you know

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there it is he was right there think

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about that that's what he did for us

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don't be sad dude took a peak took a

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peak took a peak so right now he's in

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another dimension he's in another

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dimension drawing pictures there you go

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bill Tompkins 94 passed away this

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weekend all right now back to the

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Eclipse so Rupp there yesterday and I

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didn't really know what to expect

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because the last time I remember going

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through an eclipse I was in Michigan I

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was like seven years old if my memory is

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right I was at the right place that I'm

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thinking it was so long ago I didn't see

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much I remember the pin

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whole thing in the shoebox and looking

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at it and I was seven and two you know I

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remember getting a little cloudy and

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then it was over but that's not the way

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this went down yesterday we're gonna go

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a little bit deep deeper tomorrow but a

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couple of cool things happened and the

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first thing that I did not expect and

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nobody else there did nobody was talking

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about this part of it where we were and

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we had like nine they were saying it was

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90 percent I think it was a little

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higher than that probably you know 90 95

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percent nearly a total eclipse where we

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were at Mount Shasta that it was hot

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Mount Shasta 100 degrees 95 degrees 100

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degrees humid hot the whole time when

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the eclipse started to kick into full

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gear as it was moving across it got cold

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it got cold it got cold cold it dropped

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like I don't know 20 30 degrees in in

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minutes minutes it was really trippy

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because we were dealing with the heat up

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there all weekend and just just got cold

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and and the colors changed now this

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wasn't like the colors when the clouds

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go over the Sun this was a bit different

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it looked like sepia tone to me it was

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like weird man everything went like red

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and orange was trippy so that's going on

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and it lasted for a while there were

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quite a bit of quite a few pictures that

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are posted out there of Reid and I and

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everybody up there and I saw everybody

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else's - very cool but when you when you

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looked at it it had this this this thing

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because it was such a huge event a huge

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solar space thing you could tell and I'm

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looking at it in the with the glasses on

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and I'm looking and I fell

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felt weird and cool at the same time

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like this was some thing happening that

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the some big I could feel it the

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electricity in the air was a it was a

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very fun thing we probably had around us

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up there at the mill definitely a few

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hundred people or more that were up

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there witnessing it was there was so

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many people saw it's hard for me to

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guess but everybody looking up at the

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same time and and spending it with Rita

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and and we just made it all the more

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special so for us it was really really

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really really cool and really amazing

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and the event itself went off without a

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hitch

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no technical errors nothing

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everything was everything was good the

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packed house every night as you can see

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with with all the photographs that that

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I put out there but that that's always

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just the bonus but the people that were

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there all of the attendees were great

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now let's put that aside for a second

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let me tell you what was really really

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cool about this conference the speakers

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were amazing and intense Jay whitener

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lit it on fire

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we expect that okay so that's that's

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that part we expect up Jay lit it up

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Cory did four different presentations

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and all were really good he did three q

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and A's and interviews with other with

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other Gastown stays and then he did one

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by himself so he did four for Justin des

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Champs incredible jordan saylor i think

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he did three different presentations and

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he opened up the show every single day

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Theresa inaros amazing

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I could go with Michael Salah lit it up

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I can go on and on but though is the

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style and the way that everything was

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done Oh Oh Gerald O'Donnell oh man

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whoo so he's gonna be on the show too as

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well and Benton yo Massaro I cannot wait

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till he is on this show an amazing

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presentation so for for everybody that

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was there okay where was this

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let's see who's this a picture of I

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can't tell oh yeah there yeah it's Cory

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the the way that these presentations

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were done the way that the subjects were

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chosen and presented amazing and the the

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facility McLeod the city a town all all

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combined into just a really great event

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and we had Mount Shasta you know staring

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down into the entire time very cool all

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right and we'll talk more about this

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over over the next few days and Rita's

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has got a zillion pictures so will will

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get all of those up there too as well

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and we took teddy if we took daddy oh

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man great just a great event and a great

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mixer that they put together too as well

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more on that later I do want to say this

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putting the Eclipse aside and Bill

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Tompkins subject number three really

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quick today because we've been out of

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touch for five days you know no CNN no

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TV none zero TV for five days at all

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so today get into the bunker and and and

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it turns out and you can't I don't

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believe you can see this from your side

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you would have to go insert a little bit

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deeper but it turns out I got hit by

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YouTube so I called the management

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company that handles our the management

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of our YouTube channel and I call him up

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and he immediately the the main guide

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the manager that goes his name is Ian

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you got hit didn't you I won't let me

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tell you what's gonna no no no you got

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hit and they're wave everybody is

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getting hit

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and everybody that we manage over here

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because they're larger YouTube channels

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they have a lot of content a lot of

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views a lot of this lot of advertising

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they're all getting hit I've been on the

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phone all day

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I said really yeah they started this

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weekend so and what happened we have 700

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YouTube videos and I just signed on to

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YouTube just to see what's going on and

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kind of check and I see all these flags

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buh buh buh buh buh buh buh buh boom

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boom boom

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you have been flagged you have been

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flagged advertising your your this

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material is not advertiser friendly what

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and it was it was a trip to see this now

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we have been a YouTube partner for four

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years we have had no issues none when it

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comes to this stuff we initiate the

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problems we don't have problems coming

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to us for anything YouTube loves us and

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and here we virtually every other videos

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been flagged every one we have to go now

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we have 700 videos up it looks like out

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of 700 about 250 or 300 about a third

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every other other one it's been flagged

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and we have to go into a manual review

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and appeal think about that that's right

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and so virtually they've shut our

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channel down as far as income goes so

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the and the way that this appeals

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process works with YouTube and this is

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on notice that unless my video has had a

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thousand views in the last seven days or

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more then it can it can be appealed but

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if not and it's just there then I can't

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appeal it the the flag stays and now

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this is apparently what is gone

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YouTube has fired up a software program

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that is looking for flags in audio

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content okay and it's searching for

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keywords keywords and I'm looking at who

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they flagged they have flagged all of my

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Jim Marrs

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interviews every single one which were

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all titled The View for Mars right part

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1 part 2 part 3 part 4 whatever all of

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those Steven Greer's flagged Wilcock and

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good are okay the trip on that but Linda

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Moulton Howe is not and and this is just

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going through the first 200 video I mean

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just scrolling from page to page I am

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just infuriated I mean I just can't

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believe this and we it's just now I

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don't know who is choosing so we we can

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no longer have a description of the show

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up can't do that we can't have any tag

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words can't do it they have a list of

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thousands of words that will immediately

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flag all of this now I don't use lots of

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key words out there that would flag

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things Isis

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you know Trump you know I don't do that

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stuff but and we don't talk about that

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stuff on the show but we do it enough

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where if I mention I don't I don't watch

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Isis videos anymore that'll get me a

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flag in the audio apparently and they're

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not telling us what the issues are

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unbelievable man man man and and

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unfortunately we're just stuck there's

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something we can do all right

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this is fade to black I am your host

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Jimmy Church tonight Mel fàbregas

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joined by Mel now we're on the game

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all right welcome back fade to black

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I'm your host Jimmy Church tonight very

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special guest Mel fàbregas is with this

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host of Veritas Veritas radio tomorrow

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night so our total eclipse special wrap

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up we're gonna prattles in here and a

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few other special guests we're gonna

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post some pictures of the event that we

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were just at up at Mount Shasta and then

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Thursday night Ralph Ellis is gonna be

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here live from Europe and we're gonna be

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doing Adam and Eve and of course Jon

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Rappoport will open up the show with his

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no more fake newsroom live but tonight

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00:39:24,900 --> 00:39:22,480
it's all about Mel very excited about

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00:39:27,000 --> 00:39:24,910
tonight doesn't happen often where we

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get to go host a host but we're gonna do

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that tonight and since 2008 I have been

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listening to Mel and Veritas he has

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interviewed everybody I would like to

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say that I have Mel has and he he does

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cover you ethology and the paranormal

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and conspiracies he does all of that but

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mal has got the style that I have been

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00:39:55,710 --> 00:39:52,750
drawn to I want to be Mel and tonight I

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want to find out exactly how he got his

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start and what makes him click so we're

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gonna do all of that he does have a

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bachelor's degree in finance he's got a

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master's degree in international

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business administration from the

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University of Texas

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Tejas Mel has appeared on the History

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Channel's Brad Meltzer's decoded one of

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my favorite shows he's been on all of

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the shows I gotta get him on coast to

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coast I wonder if Mel I gotta ask him

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00:40:23,160 --> 00:40:21,040
about that maybe we should get Mel on

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coast maybe even this weekend if he

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wants to stay up that late but what Mel

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does and and I think his journey is to

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do just that to bring us the truth

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that's what Veritas means that all of

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those hidden and an obscure loss history

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conspiracies subjects that go from all

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the way from humanity to to even health

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issues so we're gonna do all of that

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tonight with Mel and I would like to

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welcome for the first time to fade to

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black the one and only mental fàbregas

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mal good evening

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give it evening Jimmy hello thanks for

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having us

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showing thanks to your wonderful

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audience for tuning in as well oh man

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just say Veritas for me once

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Veritas yeah it smell all right Matt

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welcome to the show and you've been an

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inspiration for me for a while because

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mal I study everybody you know I listen

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to all of the great veterans of the past

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I'm talking about from the 50s going

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back to Long John Neville you know and

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and some of the other you know a Billy

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good men out in Vegas in the 80s was

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just amazing stuff and we had a couple

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of guys here in Ella anyway I just

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listened to everybody and when you came

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00:41:49,980 --> 00:41:44,920
along you had a tone and an attitude

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that was almost what's the word I want

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to use a juvenile child like you know

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you had a question you wondered right

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and and that's I always appreciated your

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take on things where you were going at

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it and you seemed to me to be unbrushed

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right you were you weren't like all of

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the others and you weren't trying to be

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a personality and I want you to tell me

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that I'm right am i right about that you

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you did you pursue a broadcast career

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not at all you're 200% absolutely

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correct I had no experience I've

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probably never Hitler held a microphone

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in my life but it was a it's a long

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story that I can discuss if you'd like

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me to absolutely but no absolutely I had

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no intention of becoming a journalist of

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becoming an investigator but in my

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nature

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it was innately in me that I always

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wanted to ask questions and apostles me

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that in school and church family friends

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if I ever asked questions that did not

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fit their mold I was always welcome with

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rolling eyes or a sarcastic comment or

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please don't go there and I fell Sean

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and ridiculed and I thought one day

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maybe in the future

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something will happen that would allow

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me to ask these questions but no you're

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absolutely right I had no intention of

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00:43:22,450 --> 00:43:19,520
becoming a broadcaster I had no

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experience so this happened just one

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00:43:27,220 --> 00:43:24,980
night overnight it just happened now

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we're gonna do we're gonna do I want to

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00:43:30,010 --> 00:43:27,890
hear this

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00:43:33,490 --> 00:43:30,020
this this amazing epiphany because

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00:43:35,410 --> 00:43:33,500
that's exactly what it was but in the

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00:43:37,330 --> 00:43:35,420
excitement of bringing you on I forgot

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00:43:39,910 --> 00:43:37,340
the first time guests disclosed

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00:43:41,530 --> 00:43:39,920
disclaimer and it's already up in

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Twitter Church what's going on and are

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00:43:47,830 --> 00:43:44,320
you freaking out you forgot the

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00:43:49,750 --> 00:43:47,840
disclaimer which is this Mel it's just

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00:43:51,610 --> 00:43:49,760
you and I sitting on my couch having a

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00:43:53,530 --> 00:43:51,620
conversation as friends where the

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00:43:54,850 --> 00:43:53,540
conversation starts it starts where it

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00:43:56,160 --> 00:43:54,860
ends it ends but we're gonna end as

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00:43:58,780 --> 00:43:56,170
friends you're ready to go

747
00:44:00,100 --> 00:43:58,790
absolutely all right now we got that out

748
00:44:04,780 --> 00:44:00,110
of the way next time you're on the show

749
00:44:07,720 --> 00:44:04,790
you don't get it but everybody has that

750
00:44:10,060 --> 00:44:07,730
epiphany don't they and you need to take

751
00:44:14,620 --> 00:44:10,070
if you want to change your life you

752
00:44:16,990 --> 00:44:14,630
recognize what that maybe most don't

753
00:44:20,230 --> 00:44:17,000
right because it also can be a difficult

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00:44:24,310 --> 00:44:20,240
part of the life's journey but you did

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00:44:28,180 --> 00:44:24,320
not man you chose to to to listen to you

756
00:44:29,680 --> 00:44:28,190
not follow your dreams to listen to your

757
00:44:30,160 --> 00:44:29,690
dreams so tell us the story what

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00:44:33,520 --> 00:44:30,170
happened

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00:44:35,680 --> 00:44:33,530
just imagine somebody who wants to do

760
00:44:37,810 --> 00:44:35,690
all of this but because of the way you

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00:44:41,260 --> 00:44:37,820
were brought up this society the

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00:44:44,050 --> 00:44:41,270
schooling education now is it working

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00:44:46,870 --> 00:44:44,060
for a fortune 100 company for 13 years

764
00:44:49,300 --> 00:44:46,880
you do not talk about these subjects and

765
00:44:52,090 --> 00:44:49,310
the only reason why I'm able to do what

766
00:44:53,740 --> 00:44:52,100
I do now is because I'm self-employed I

767
00:44:56,290 --> 00:44:53,750
mean right now I see so many people

768
00:44:58,150 --> 00:44:56,300
changing their names and social media

769
00:45:00,190 --> 00:44:58,160
and I always wonder why do you change

770
00:45:02,470 --> 00:45:00,200
your name and they're telling me well

771
00:45:05,350 --> 00:45:02,480
because my employer would have access to

772
00:45:07,600 --> 00:45:05,360
even some of the pictures can get people

773
00:45:09,580 --> 00:45:07,610
fired so there's this fear but let me

774
00:45:12,100 --> 00:45:09,590
just give you a summary of what happened

775
00:45:14,950 --> 00:45:12,110
I grew up in a small island in the

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Caribbean Puerto Rico and as many people

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00:45:20,770 --> 00:45:16,910
know we are located in one of the

778
00:45:24,220 --> 00:45:20,780
Bermuda Triangle corners in the 1970s I

779
00:45:25,839 --> 00:45:24,230
remember hearing of this company that

780
00:45:28,390 --> 00:45:25,849
was filming a

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00:45:30,579 --> 00:45:28,400
a commercial and they were putting a

782
00:45:32,559 --> 00:45:30,589
camera at night on top of a part of the

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tallest buildings and they wanted to

784
00:45:36,069 --> 00:45:34,309
have one of those things where they

785
00:45:38,650 --> 00:45:36,079
rolled the entire night for like a

786
00:45:40,689 --> 00:45:38,660
ten-second commercial and all of a

787
00:45:44,439 --> 00:45:40,699
sudden after the producers got the

788
00:45:46,209 --> 00:45:44,449
footage they found a UFO and they put it

789
00:45:49,120 --> 00:45:46,219
in the news and you can see this light

790
00:45:52,180 --> 00:45:49,130
coming from left to right stop it in a

791
00:45:53,859 --> 00:45:52,190
dime and just boom out and I just

792
00:45:56,680 --> 00:45:53,869
thought this is only five minutes away

793
00:45:59,829 --> 00:45:56,690
from my home and so that's what really

794
00:46:02,170 --> 00:45:59,839
got me interested now fast forward fast

795
00:46:06,579 --> 00:46:02,180
forward to the 90s I moved from Puerto

796
00:46:08,589 --> 00:46:06,589
Rico to Florida to Miami and bought a

797
00:46:12,180 --> 00:46:08,599
house and I remember I had this alarm

798
00:46:15,160 --> 00:46:12,190
and at night at 11 o'clock at night

799
00:46:16,900 --> 00:46:15,170
always the alarm would just go off

800
00:46:18,699 --> 00:46:16,910
almost as if there's no there was an

801
00:46:20,769 --> 00:46:18,709
intruder so I would go running

802
00:46:22,660 --> 00:46:20,779
downstairs and I would see that the

803
00:46:25,779 --> 00:46:22,670
light was blinking as if it's something

804
00:46:27,189 --> 00:46:25,789
was happening in my bedroom so he kept

805
00:46:29,709 --> 00:46:27,199
happening and I thought you know there

806
00:46:32,979 --> 00:46:29,719
must be something wrong so I I'm

807
00:46:36,489 --> 00:46:32,989
disconnected I turned it off the next

808
00:46:39,099 --> 00:46:36,499
day I hear a bang on the stairway

809
00:46:41,469 --> 00:46:39,109
railing and I thought no this can be

810
00:46:43,539 --> 00:46:41,479
possible 11 o'clock I woke up this sound

811
00:46:44,439 --> 00:46:43,549
I go running to the stairway railing and

812
00:46:47,439 --> 00:46:44,449
I touched it

813
00:46:48,309 --> 00:46:47,449
that was vibrating and I thought am I

814
00:46:51,400 --> 00:46:48,319
going crazy

815
00:46:52,989 --> 00:46:51,410
well anyway I moved to Mexico my company

816
00:46:56,680 --> 00:46:52,999
sent me there during the implementation

817
00:46:59,769 --> 00:46:56,690
of NAFTA and I moved to an apartment and

818
00:47:01,599 --> 00:46:59,779
not even two days later I wake up at 11

819
00:47:03,689 --> 00:47:01,609
o'clock at night and the windows are

820
00:47:06,789 --> 00:47:03,699
open and the curtains are flapping

821
00:47:10,150 --> 00:47:06,799
there's Kerry and I thought maybe I left

822
00:47:12,249 --> 00:47:10,160
that open I closed it the next day I

823
00:47:15,969 --> 00:47:12,259
came from work I went to sleep I closed

824
00:47:18,519 --> 00:47:15,979
it 11:00 p.m. the windows open again

825
00:47:21,339 --> 00:47:18,529
right out at this point I was very very

826
00:47:24,279 --> 00:47:21,349
disturbed by Don something is trying to

827
00:47:26,979 --> 00:47:24,289
communicate with me no doubts sure I go

828
00:47:30,430 --> 00:47:26,989
to the office I'm hiring that day and

829
00:47:32,799 --> 00:47:30,440
all of a sudden this woman who looked

830
00:47:35,319 --> 00:47:32,809
like offence but she looked like a witch

831
00:47:38,380 --> 00:47:35,329
she comes sits down interviews with me

832
00:47:40,120 --> 00:47:38,390
and she says sir I'm sorry but

833
00:47:42,489 --> 00:47:40,130
and I hire her on the spot

834
00:47:44,380 --> 00:47:42,499
I don't know why I usually take my time

835
00:47:46,359 --> 00:47:44,390
to hire people usually two three

836
00:47:48,249 --> 00:47:46,369
interviews but something there's a

837
00:47:51,160 --> 00:47:48,259
connection with this lady and I hired

838
00:47:53,709 --> 00:47:51,170
her and at the end she says sir you

839
00:47:55,390 --> 00:47:53,719
seemed a little bit disturbed what's

840
00:47:57,489 --> 00:47:55,400
going on and I'm thinking I just hired

841
00:47:59,920 --> 00:47:57,499
you in my mind do you want to get fired

842
00:48:02,380 --> 00:47:59,930
for becoming some you know this is this

843
00:48:05,319 --> 00:48:02,390
is a personal matter but she said may I

844
00:48:08,079 --> 00:48:05,329
have your pocket pen and I'll bring it

845
00:48:09,719 --> 00:48:08,089
back to you in the morning and I thought

846
00:48:12,459 --> 00:48:09,729
well this is strange but here we go

847
00:48:14,769 --> 00:48:12,469
the next morning she comes in she starts

848
00:48:19,719 --> 00:48:14,779
telling me things about my past that

849
00:48:21,400 --> 00:48:19,729
nobody knew but me and she said someone

850
00:48:23,920 --> 00:48:21,410
is trying to communicate with you and

851
00:48:26,140 --> 00:48:23,930
you're not letting that entity come

852
00:48:29,529 --> 00:48:26,150
through you need to meditate you need to

853
00:48:32,680 --> 00:48:29,539
practice yoga meditation and so on so

854
00:48:35,049 --> 00:48:32,690
anyway after that happened the 11

855
00:48:38,349 --> 00:48:35,059
o'clock thing stopped which I found

856
00:48:41,620 --> 00:48:38,359
strange now fast-forward that to six

857
00:48:44,709 --> 00:48:41,630
nine months later I go to the office and

858
00:48:47,229 --> 00:48:44,719
she comes to the office and she's you

859
00:48:47,620 --> 00:48:47,239
know upset and I said to her why you're

860
00:48:49,620 --> 00:48:47,630
upset

861
00:48:52,839 --> 00:48:49,630
and she said because you're leaving

862
00:48:54,400 --> 00:48:52,849
without leaving why I'm here I love it

863
00:48:57,160 --> 00:48:54,410
here I just there's a great opportunity

864
00:48:59,349 --> 00:48:57,170
I love Mexico it's culture all the

865
00:49:00,640 --> 00:48:59,359
sights and she says well you're gonna

866
00:49:04,150 --> 00:49:00,650
get a phone call very soon

867
00:49:06,910 --> 00:49:04,160
today's later the peso devaluation

868
00:49:08,859 --> 00:49:06,920
happened in Mexico and my boss called me

869
00:49:12,130 --> 00:49:08,869
from San Francisco and said we need to

870
00:49:13,449 --> 00:49:12,140
get you out and I thought wow this lady

871
00:49:15,370 --> 00:49:13,459
saw that coming

872
00:49:18,219 --> 00:49:15,380
Wow so I go back to the office and she

873
00:49:22,749 --> 00:49:18,229
goes you got your phone call dating you

874
00:49:24,249 --> 00:49:22,759
and then like the next day she comes in

875
00:49:26,529 --> 00:49:24,259
she tells me before you go I want to

876
00:49:29,380 --> 00:49:26,539
tell you this and she tells me you're

877
00:49:32,650 --> 00:49:29,390
gonna lose an extra skin in the next you

878
00:49:34,029 --> 00:49:32,660
know six months my father passed away a

879
00:49:36,370 --> 00:49:34,039
few months after that the first

880
00:49:38,769 --> 00:49:36,380
next-of-kin she said you're gonna be

881
00:49:40,839 --> 00:49:38,779
going places gonna be going around the

882
00:49:42,939 --> 00:49:40,849
world you're gonna marry somebody that

883
00:49:45,430 --> 00:49:42,949
looks like this she described who's now

884
00:49:47,920 --> 00:49:45,440
my wife to a tee I didn't meet my wife

885
00:49:50,529 --> 00:49:47,930
until four or five years later you're

886
00:49:52,989 --> 00:49:50,539
gonna wind up living in a very warm

887
00:49:54,130 --> 00:49:52,999
place but it's very beautiful with a lot

888
00:49:55,870 --> 00:49:54,140
of nature

889
00:49:59,019 --> 00:49:55,880
we'll live into some of it's exactly the

890
00:50:02,200 --> 00:49:59,029
description but then she said but most

891
00:50:04,690 --> 00:50:02,210
importantly you will be informing the

892
00:50:06,549 --> 00:50:04,700
world that will be your duty and I

893
00:50:08,859 --> 00:50:06,559
thought wait a second we all have to die

894
00:50:11,710 --> 00:50:08,869
and the father passed away with me some

895
00:50:13,809 --> 00:50:11,720
of us get married we you know may go to

896
00:50:16,210 --> 00:50:13,819
live in beautiful places all could be

897
00:50:18,910 --> 00:50:16,220
coincidence right but this thing about

898
00:50:21,640 --> 00:50:18,920
informing the world right what is that

899
00:50:23,979 --> 00:50:21,650
and she said in due time it will be

900
00:50:27,880 --> 00:50:23,989
revealed to you now fast forward this is

901
00:50:30,309 --> 00:50:27,890
1993 fast forward to 2008 after the

902
00:50:32,829 --> 00:50:30,319
economy crash in the United States well

903
00:50:34,470 --> 00:50:32,839
okay so Mel let me jump in between 93

904
00:50:38,739 --> 00:50:34,480
and 2008

905
00:50:41,019 --> 00:50:38,749
I don't wanna say justa but you are just

906
00:50:42,549 --> 00:50:41,029
you're you're not in the public you're

907
00:50:45,370 --> 00:50:42,559
in the business sector you're a

908
00:50:47,319 --> 00:50:45,380
professional nothing to do with

909
00:50:50,319 --> 00:50:47,329
informing the world you're just doing

910
00:50:52,870 --> 00:50:50,329
your thing right correct correct I left

911
00:50:54,910 --> 00:50:52,880
the corporate world in 1998 and then

912
00:50:57,900 --> 00:50:54,920
right you know I've been in business and

913
00:51:00,700 --> 00:50:57,910
since since then but nothing paranormal

914
00:51:03,910 --> 00:51:00,710
nothing out of the ordinary right so in

915
00:51:07,509 --> 00:51:03,920
2008 I had this dream I hardly have

916
00:51:09,729 --> 00:51:07,519
dreams but when I do they are very very

917
00:51:12,309 --> 00:51:09,739
vivid I'll tell you one later especially

918
00:51:15,970 --> 00:51:12,319
what's going on now with these ships

919
00:51:17,710 --> 00:51:15,980
that are banging into into US military

920
00:51:21,430 --> 00:51:17,720
vessels that's that's another story

921
00:51:23,829 --> 00:51:21,440
right but in December of 2008 I had this

922
00:51:26,109 --> 00:51:23,839
dream that said take action take action

923
00:51:28,809 --> 00:51:26,119
it was not even a vision it's just words

924
00:51:31,150 --> 00:51:28,819
take action and I remember having

925
00:51:33,039 --> 00:51:31,160
learned from the great Anthony Robbins

926
00:51:34,900 --> 00:51:33,049
take action those words always with me

927
00:51:37,870 --> 00:51:34,910
but that day apply it

928
00:51:41,170 --> 00:51:37,880
I hardly ever watch TV but I was drawn

929
00:51:44,410 --> 00:51:41,180
to the remote that day I turn on the TV

930
00:51:47,559 --> 00:51:44,420
and I see this gentleman with the name

931
00:51:51,160 --> 00:51:47,569
of Milton Torres who was a former US Air

932
00:51:54,430 --> 00:51:51,170
Force pilot in 1957 was stationed in

933
00:52:00,130 --> 00:51:54,440
East Anglia England and he was basically

934
00:52:03,160 --> 00:52:00,140
told you know get up there and fire a

935
00:52:05,370 --> 00:52:03,170
missile on that UFO and I thought what

936
00:52:07,420 --> 00:52:05,380
this this man is saying that publicly

937
00:52:09,700 --> 00:52:07,430
apparently the you

938
00:52:10,990 --> 00:52:09,710
Minister of Defense the Department of it

939
00:52:13,780 --> 00:52:11,000
the Minister of Defense had the

940
00:52:16,720 --> 00:52:13,790
classified some of you of the afford

941
00:52:20,349 --> 00:52:16,730
documents and he was finally after 50

942
00:52:22,569 --> 00:52:20,359
years able to tell the story and you

943
00:52:24,549 --> 00:52:22,579
know CNN Fox News everybody was having

944
00:52:27,700 --> 00:52:24,559
him on but just for a few minutes and

945
00:52:30,490 --> 00:52:27,710
nobody was asking real questions and I

946
00:52:33,849 --> 00:52:30,500
thought in my mind I have to speak with

947
00:52:36,040 --> 00:52:33,859
his gentlemen don't ask me how I was

948
00:52:39,670 --> 00:52:36,050
able to find his telephone number in a

949
00:52:41,589 --> 00:52:39,680
matter of minutes so I called him and

950
00:52:43,450 --> 00:52:41,599
before I called him I actually went to

951
00:52:44,950 --> 00:52:43,460
dinner with my wife and I said I'm gonna

952
00:52:47,980 --> 00:52:44,960
call him but I have to say that I'm

953
00:52:50,290 --> 00:52:47,990
coming from a radio platform I'm not you

954
00:52:53,079 --> 00:52:50,300
know this is just me how can he believe

955
00:52:54,910 --> 00:52:53,089
that I'm from a radio program what can a

956
00:52:57,970 --> 00:52:54,920
pro do you think a name give me a name

957
00:53:00,490 --> 00:52:57,980
and my wife uttered the words very TAS

958
00:53:03,130 --> 00:53:00,500
and I said wow that encompasses

959
00:53:05,920 --> 00:53:03,140
everything so I went ahead and called

960
00:53:08,470 --> 00:53:05,930
Milton Torres and I said may I interview

961
00:53:12,339 --> 00:53:08,480
you and he said absolutely when tomorrow

962
00:53:15,490 --> 00:53:12,349
so I went to Best Buy a bono microphone

963
00:53:16,809 --> 00:53:15,500
and I just very simple I just wanted to

964
00:53:19,359 --> 00:53:16,819
speak with him to record that

965
00:53:24,069 --> 00:53:19,369
conversation as a souvenir for for me

966
00:53:26,799 --> 00:53:24,079
selfishly so I recorded it I immediately

967
00:53:30,099 --> 00:53:26,809
posted it in a few forums and in less

968
00:53:32,440 --> 00:53:30,109
than 24 hours I was getting hundreds and

969
00:53:32,829 --> 00:53:32,450
hundreds of emails from people wait a

970
00:53:35,470 --> 00:53:32,839
minute

971
00:53:37,599 --> 00:53:35,480
where do you broadcast from worst when's

972
00:53:39,370 --> 00:53:37,609
the next program blah blah blah and I

973
00:53:41,530 --> 00:53:39,380
thought wow people are believing that I

974
00:53:44,230 --> 00:53:41,540
really already a host and the next

975
00:53:46,240 --> 00:53:44,240
person that comes to me was Steve

976
00:53:48,280 --> 00:53:46,250
Bassett and he said I'd like to come on

977
00:53:50,319 --> 00:53:48,290
your show and I'm thinking does he even

978
00:53:52,599 --> 00:53:50,329
know that I don't have a show so the

979
00:53:54,670 --> 00:53:52,609
second one was with Steven Bassett and

980
00:53:57,010 --> 00:53:54,680
we did an excellent show and from there

981
00:53:59,680 --> 00:53:57,020
I was forced to continue and it raised

982
00:54:02,200 --> 00:53:59,690
you know it just became a snowball to

983
00:54:03,640 --> 00:54:02,210
what very test has become today and of

984
00:54:06,789 --> 00:54:03,650
course in the middle of many things

985
00:54:08,799 --> 00:54:06,799
happened but that's the inception of how

986
00:54:12,730 --> 00:54:08,809
this wonderful journey began

987
00:54:15,370 --> 00:54:12,740
did did you did you cop a vibe from that

988
00:54:19,960 --> 00:54:15,380
with Torres in that

989
00:54:22,300 --> 00:54:19,970
that maybe you had some talent that you

990
00:54:25,840 --> 00:54:22,310
didn't know about and that part of it

991
00:54:28,090 --> 00:54:25,850
that because when you go to broadcast

992
00:54:31,420 --> 00:54:28,100
school and you study journalism I think

993
00:54:33,910 --> 00:54:31,430
that because I did write you you try a

994
00:54:37,630 --> 00:54:33,920
little bit too hard you're trying to be

995
00:54:40,120 --> 00:54:37,640
somebody that you are not yes for you

996
00:54:41,800 --> 00:54:40,130
that did you know you didn't have to go

997
00:54:44,770 --> 00:54:41,810
through that phase and you didn't have

998
00:54:48,400 --> 00:54:44,780
to go through the phase of of grades

999
00:54:51,130 --> 00:54:48,410
right taking tests competing with other

1000
00:54:54,370 --> 00:54:51,140
students trying to get jobs in the

1001
00:54:56,380 --> 00:54:54,380
broadcast world no you jumped in because

1002
00:54:59,350 --> 00:54:56,390
you were doing it for the art of it and

1003
00:55:01,360 --> 00:54:59,360
you wanted to have your own gift right

1004
00:55:03,250 --> 00:55:01,370
that's what you were doing and you

1005
00:55:05,710 --> 00:55:03,260
wanted to have this this this

1006
00:55:07,570 --> 00:55:05,720
conversation and have a preserved but

1007
00:55:09,940 --> 00:55:07,580
going through that did you back off on

1008
00:55:12,040 --> 00:55:09,950
the end up and go hey you know what man

1009
00:55:15,640 --> 00:55:12,050
I think Mel might have some talent here

1010
00:55:19,510 --> 00:55:15,650
that that Mel didn't know about you know

1011
00:55:22,840 --> 00:55:19,520
I didn't go to school for this but the

1012
00:55:24,910 --> 00:55:22,850
listeners did great me and I did for

1013
00:55:27,190 --> 00:55:24,920
some reason I wanted to sound very

1014
00:55:31,300 --> 00:55:27,200
polished I used to be a fan of Rod

1015
00:55:34,200 --> 00:55:31,310
Stirling I love the way he spoke the

1016
00:55:37,630 --> 00:55:34,210
Walter Cronkite that kind of old-school

1017
00:55:41,890 --> 00:55:37,640
1950s 60s Americana you know what I'm

1018
00:55:43,300 --> 00:55:41,900
talking about but the the listeners did

1019
00:55:46,780 --> 00:55:43,310
criticize me at the beginning because

1020
00:55:49,330 --> 00:55:46,790
they said relax you sounded like mr.

1021
00:55:51,640 --> 00:55:49,340
Roboto and I used to laugh about that

1022
00:55:53,650 --> 00:55:51,650
hey and I look back and I listen to some

1023
00:55:56,590 --> 00:55:53,660
of the old interviews and I think I

1024
00:55:59,500 --> 00:55:56,600
cannot believe I used to talk like that

1025
00:56:02,230 --> 00:55:59,510
uh-huh and then later as the years went

1026
00:56:04,360 --> 00:56:02,240
by I decided I just need to relax I just

1027
00:56:06,370 --> 00:56:04,370
need to be myself I need to just have a

1028
00:56:09,490 --> 00:56:06,380
conversation you know I used to speak

1029
00:56:11,320 --> 00:56:09,500
very loud I need to modulate myself

1030
00:56:12,550 --> 00:56:11,330
better and then you know listen to

1031
00:56:16,150 --> 00:56:12,560
people like you that make me sound like

1032
00:56:18,730 --> 00:56:16,160
a chipmunk but you know it's a matter of

1033
00:56:22,090 --> 00:56:18,740
doing what you like and loving what you

1034
00:56:24,070 --> 00:56:22,100
do once you find that niche in your life

1035
00:56:27,070 --> 00:56:24,080
there's nothing else I have still have

1036
00:56:28,760 --> 00:56:27,080
my other businesses I have a family but

1037
00:56:31,310 --> 00:56:28,770
when I do this

1038
00:56:32,900 --> 00:56:31,320
it's just a vacation every time into it

1039
00:56:35,210 --> 00:56:32,910
I wish I could do it more often I just

1040
00:56:38,210 --> 00:56:35,220
don't have the time but it's just at

1041
00:56:41,240 --> 00:56:38,220
just a wonderful thing to every every

1042
00:56:43,760 --> 00:56:41,250
week open new doors the problem is I

1043
00:56:45,350 --> 00:56:43,770
used to think that I knew a lot but

1044
00:56:47,810 --> 00:56:45,360
every time and I think this happens to

1045
00:56:49,880 --> 00:56:47,820
you and other in our colleagues when you

1046
00:56:52,940 --> 00:56:49,890
interview someone and they bring you new

1047
00:56:55,580 --> 00:56:52,950
nuggets of wisdom you realize how much

1048
00:56:59,600 --> 00:56:55,590
you don't know and much more you want to

1049
00:57:02,450 --> 00:56:59,610
learn it's amazing how that happens

1050
00:57:06,530 --> 00:57:02,460
because I did a life of research before

1051
00:57:08,390 --> 00:57:06,540
a life I'm full on going back to when I

1052
00:57:11,450 --> 00:57:08,400
was a kid I did everything that I could

1053
00:57:14,450 --> 00:57:11,460
to soak up the paranormal and Edgar

1054
00:57:16,850 --> 00:57:14,460
Cayce and and and von Daniken from the

1055
00:57:19,490 --> 00:57:16,860
early 70s I read all that I saw all the

1056
00:57:23,270 --> 00:57:19,500
doctor I did I did it all and I thought

1057
00:57:26,960 --> 00:57:23,280
that I had a pretty solid footing and I

1058
00:57:29,660 --> 00:57:26,970
realized now that I don't I rely I don't

1059
00:57:32,390 --> 00:57:29,670
I need to interview man I need to do

1060
00:57:36,260 --> 00:57:32,400
that I need to just constantly be a

1061
00:57:39,380 --> 00:57:36,270
sponge what I learn every day I'm

1062
00:57:41,300 --> 00:57:39,390
appreciative of but it definitely causes

1063
00:57:43,850 --> 00:57:41,310
me to step back and go I don't know

1064
00:57:45,830 --> 00:57:43,860
nothing I don't I really don't there's

1065
00:57:48,080 --> 00:57:45,840
so much to learn out there every single

1066
00:57:50,480 --> 00:57:48,090
day you'd flip over a rock mail you know

1067
00:57:53,030 --> 00:57:50,490
better than anybody you do it you're

1068
00:57:55,850 --> 00:57:53,040
like well okay I I don't know nothing

1069
00:57:59,030 --> 00:57:55,860
that this world is a crazy crazy place

1070
00:58:00,890 --> 00:57:59,040
this this this universe and that's the

1071
00:58:03,530 --> 00:58:00,900
best part of this job when you find your

1072
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bliss like you have then you are able to

1073
00:58:08,000 --> 00:58:05,850
just keep your mind open keep it open

1074
00:58:11,750 --> 00:58:08,010
and keep soaking it in and that's what

1075
00:58:15,920 --> 00:58:11,760
you do on Veritas I've always been a

1076
00:58:18,650 --> 00:58:15,930
great admirer of that - you know you

1077
00:58:22,340 --> 00:58:18,660
question everything you're skeptical in

1078
00:58:25,400 --> 00:58:22,350
in a healthy way but you just ask the

1079
00:58:27,430 --> 00:58:25,410
right questions at the right time when

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00:58:30,680 --> 00:58:27,440
did you start to figure out that you

1081
00:58:32,780 --> 00:58:30,690
were getting your questions correct I

1082
00:58:36,130 --> 00:58:32,790
know you listen to the old stuff we were

1083
00:58:38,840 --> 00:58:36,140
like that was just awful you know but

1084
00:58:41,090 --> 00:58:38,850
you know but but when did you start to

1085
00:58:41,870 --> 00:58:41,100
feel like okay I've got my style here I

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00:58:46,010 --> 00:58:41,880
know

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00:58:47,510 --> 00:58:46,020
now how to ask a question I would say

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00:58:50,840 --> 00:58:47,520
probably after after the third season

1089
00:58:53,330 --> 00:58:50,850
yeah all right this this now if you do

1090
00:58:55,790 --> 00:58:53,340
it from one year it's practice if you do

1091
00:58:57,230 --> 00:58:55,800
it for two years well you're going but

1092
00:58:59,150 --> 00:58:57,240
if you're still standing after the third

1093
00:59:01,280 --> 00:58:59,160
year and Steve people are still

1094
00:59:03,320 --> 00:59:01,290
listening to us and remember we don't

1095
00:59:05,750 --> 00:59:03,330
have any commercials are the only people

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00:59:08,030 --> 00:59:05,760
that that supporters are our subscribers

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00:59:09,920 --> 00:59:08,040
and I wanted to keep it that way I don't

1098
00:59:12,140 --> 00:59:09,930
want to be chasing sponsors that may be

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00:59:14,300 --> 00:59:12,150
telling me hey don't talk about this and

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00:59:16,220 --> 00:59:14,310
talk about that because it did happen we

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00:59:19,040 --> 00:59:16,230
dated on the second year they started

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00:59:21,050 --> 00:59:19,050
people coming to us and said you know we

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00:59:23,150 --> 00:59:21,060
want to be your sponsor but you cannot

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00:59:25,580 --> 00:59:23,160
go here and there and I thought there's

1105
00:59:28,120 --> 00:59:25,590
no way in the world I thought this is

1106
00:59:30,650 --> 00:59:28,130
going to be the consumer reports of

1107
00:59:32,090 --> 00:59:30,660
alternative media right it's the I don't

1108
00:59:34,640 --> 00:59:32,100
know if you when you were growing up you

1109
00:59:37,580 --> 00:59:34,650
were reading up Reader's Digest I used

1110
00:59:40,580 --> 00:59:37,590
to love reading Reader's Digest just

1111
00:59:44,330 --> 00:59:40,590
because it was so varied it included so

1112
00:59:46,430 --> 00:59:44,340
many aspects of life from A to Z the

1113
00:59:49,700 --> 00:59:46,440
full spectrum you know when I started

1114
00:59:53,150 --> 00:59:49,710
the program my motivation was UFOs I was

1115
00:59:55,760 --> 00:59:53,160
fascinated and I still AM but after a

1116
00:59:59,150 --> 00:59:55,770
year of doing just simply UFO shows I

1117
01:00:03,050 --> 00:59:59,160
thought there's more to this than that I

1118
01:00:05,300 --> 01:00:03,060
mean the UFO shows brought me incredibly

1119
01:00:07,790 --> 01:00:05,310
why would this happen to the Federal

1120
01:00:10,310 --> 01:00:07,800
Reserve what does the Federal Reserve

1121
01:00:12,200 --> 01:00:10,320
have to do with UFOs and from the

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01:00:14,780 --> 01:00:12,210
Federal Reserve it took me to an

1123
01:00:17,510 --> 01:00:14,790
alternative health and when you look at

1124
01:00:19,220 --> 01:00:17,520
all these things they're all connected

1125
01:00:21,710 --> 01:00:19,230
and then they took them into the

1126
01:00:25,070 --> 01:00:21,720
mainstream media ah Polly and I'm

1127
01:00:27,290 --> 01:00:25,080
thinking perhaps the brainwashing that

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01:00:29,960 --> 01:00:27,300
people are experiencing is not just the

1129
01:00:31,670 --> 01:00:29,970
education it's the media for example I

1130
01:00:32,810 --> 01:00:31,680
don't mean to sound condescending and it

1131
01:00:34,880 --> 01:00:32,820
needs to deviate from what we're

1132
01:00:37,250 --> 01:00:34,890
discussing but a bit if the mainstream

1133
01:00:39,560 --> 01:00:37,260
media said that you could watch the

1134
01:00:42,170 --> 01:00:39,570
Eclipse through a magnifying glass

1135
01:00:45,410 --> 01:00:42,180
half the population would go blind I'm

1136
01:00:48,440 --> 01:00:45,420
very concerned about how many people

1137
01:00:50,420 --> 01:00:48,450
follow the mainstream media as almost a

1138
01:00:52,610 --> 01:00:50,430
Dogma I don't know if this happens if

1139
01:00:54,710 --> 01:00:52,620
that happens to you it does it's 100%

1140
01:00:55,490 --> 01:00:54,720
what's going on and I have said that

1141
01:00:58,820 --> 01:00:55,500
when I start

1142
01:01:01,820 --> 01:00:58,830
to make the discovery on how everything

1143
01:01:04,520 --> 01:01:01,830
is connected I have said Mel you're

1144
01:01:08,180 --> 01:01:04,530
gonna laugh I have said I can connect

1145
01:01:13,010 --> 01:01:08,190
the Great Pyramid in Egypt to a Ford

1146
01:01:18,770 --> 01:01:13,020
Pinto car tire I can do it it's all and

1147
01:01:22,160 --> 01:01:18,780
everything in between of connecting UFOs

1148
01:01:24,950 --> 01:01:22,170
to the Fed you know that's actually easy

1149
01:01:28,550 --> 01:01:24,960
right that's that's child's play but

1150
01:01:30,530 --> 01:01:28,560
it's funny how everything is connected

1151
01:01:33,140 --> 01:01:30,540
and that's the joy of doing this show

1152
01:01:33,859 --> 01:01:33,150
you do the same thing when you have a

1153
01:01:37,040 --> 01:01:33,869
guest

1154
01:01:39,430 --> 01:01:37,050
that that appreciates that and you are

1155
01:01:42,170 --> 01:01:39,440
able to take these left and right turns

1156
01:01:45,770 --> 01:01:42,180
and keep things connected because it

1157
01:01:48,620 --> 01:01:45,780
shows the audience just that it's all

1158
01:01:50,990 --> 01:01:48,630
can it really really is and when you

1159
01:01:53,210 --> 01:01:51,000
start to make that revelation that it's

1160
01:01:55,250 --> 01:01:53,220
all connected when people say that you

1161
01:01:57,800 --> 01:01:55,260
need to give them examples but when

1162
01:01:59,420 --> 01:01:57,810
people say it I think a lot of the times

1163
01:02:01,609 --> 01:01:59,430
they don't actually understand the

1164
01:02:04,609 --> 01:02:01,619
heaviness of the meaning of that word of

1165
01:02:07,910 --> 01:02:04,619
those kinds of words but the media our

1166
01:02:11,990 --> 01:02:07,920
education our money system our military

1167
01:02:15,380 --> 01:02:12,000
industrial complex the news today our

1168
01:02:18,910 --> 01:02:15,390
children are all connected to the lost

1169
01:02:22,490 --> 01:02:18,920
history of this world of previous

1170
01:02:25,010 --> 01:02:22,500
generations that are lost in time to the

1171
01:02:27,800 --> 01:02:25,020
et phenomena to life after death to

1172
01:02:31,900 --> 01:02:27,810
consciousness two parallel worlds and to

1173
01:02:35,540 --> 01:02:34,339
absolutely I know you have a break

1174
01:02:39,980 --> 01:02:35,550
coming up soon so I don't know if I

1175
01:02:42,980 --> 01:02:39,990
should stop or continue well okay I have

1176
01:02:45,650 --> 01:02:42,990
the question that I know you get it all

1177
01:02:49,010 --> 01:02:45,660
the time I get it all the time but you

1178
01:02:54,200 --> 01:02:49,020
can answer it quickly but who is your

1179
01:02:56,420 --> 01:02:54,210
favorite interview who is my favorite

1180
01:02:58,370 --> 01:02:56,430
interview you know it's one of those

1181
01:03:01,250 --> 01:02:58,380
questions that I don't like to answer

1182
01:03:04,099 --> 01:03:01,260
just because I don't want to offend any

1183
01:03:07,339 --> 01:03:04,109
of our great guests I have plenty of

1184
01:03:09,240 --> 01:03:07,349
great interviews but I have to say the

1185
01:03:14,040 --> 01:03:09,250
late great

1186
01:03:16,170 --> 01:03:14,050
Marrs I was privileged to group some

1187
01:03:19,830 --> 01:03:16,180
people say that there was a an interview

1188
01:03:22,170 --> 01:03:19,840
conducted on coast to coast the morning

1189
01:03:23,880 --> 01:03:22,180
where he passed away I have enough to

1190
01:03:25,350 --> 01:03:23,890
filing to find it but some people are

1191
01:03:28,230 --> 01:03:25,360
telling me that I was privileged to have

1192
01:03:30,540 --> 01:03:28,240
an interview last and during the time

1193
01:03:32,760 --> 01:03:30,550
the years that I knew Jim and I know he

1194
01:03:35,430 --> 01:03:32,770
was a dear friend of yours mhm every

1195
01:03:38,730 --> 01:03:35,440
time I spoke with Jim there was

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01:03:41,940 --> 01:03:38,740
something new and it was always like a

1197
01:03:43,560 --> 01:03:41,950
kid in a candy store every time that I

1198
01:03:45,840 --> 01:03:43,570
was gonna be interviewing Jim I would

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01:03:49,800 --> 01:03:45,850
devour his books before the interview

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01:03:52,110 --> 01:03:49,810
have 25 pages of notes and that's the

1201
01:03:54,930 --> 01:03:52,120
type of interview that I really enjoyed

1202
01:03:56,480 --> 01:03:54,940
because I know that after it's done and

1203
01:04:00,240 --> 01:03:56,490
it's gonna stay there in posterity

1204
01:04:03,690 --> 01:04:00,250
people are gonna love it next year next

1205
01:04:06,270 --> 01:04:03,700
decade and so on yeah yeah he he meant

1206
01:04:09,660 --> 01:04:06,280
so much and then over this past weekend

1207
01:04:12,690 --> 01:04:09,670
we lost somebody bill Tompkins died over

1208
01:04:14,880 --> 01:04:12,700
the weekend and we were up doing a the

1209
01:04:18,060 --> 01:04:14,890
the the conference up there with Corey

1210
01:04:20,100 --> 01:04:18,070
and and Jay Widener and and Michael

1211
01:04:21,810 --> 01:04:20,110
Salah and and yo bill was part of that

1212
01:04:25,860 --> 01:04:21,820
you know circle of a team of researchers

1213
01:04:28,020 --> 01:04:25,870
and Lars yeah and and you know talk

1214
01:04:31,890 --> 01:04:28,030
about taking the wind out of everybody's

1215
01:04:34,680 --> 01:04:31,900
sales man but there you go

1216
01:04:39,060 --> 01:04:34,690
you know Jim Marrs he did it right he

1217
01:04:42,360 --> 01:04:39,070
did it right and he he lived life

1218
01:04:44,310 --> 01:04:42,370
exactly as he wanted to do it and he was

1219
01:04:47,490 --> 01:04:44,320
able to influence so many but I'm right

1220
01:04:50,190 --> 01:04:47,500
with you right there Jim Marrs is it's

1221
01:04:52,530 --> 01:04:50,200
probably every every one that I did was

1222
01:04:54,210 --> 01:04:52,540
the best one and so thank you for

1223
01:04:56,490 --> 01:04:54,220
pointing that out Mel let's take a quick

1224
01:04:59,520 --> 01:04:56,500
break our guest tonight Mel fàbregas

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01:05:00,370 --> 01:04:59,530
this is Veritas on f2b

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we'll be right back

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[Applause]

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welcome back fade to black our guest

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01:08:50,990 --> 01:08:49,100
tonight Mellon fàbregas this is Veritas

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fade to black

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doesn't get any better than that

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you know now I wanted to ask you let's

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kind of go here let's let's let's start

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to have some fun

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is there any zone that you won't go into

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when it comes to bringing on a guest and

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when it comes to a zone that you're

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feeling funky about do you challenge

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your guests that's a difficult question

1302
01:09:23,420 --> 01:09:20,940
just because I don't believe in

1303
01:09:25,490 --> 01:09:23,430
censorship believe in these free speech

1304
01:09:29,210 --> 01:09:25,500
I don't want anybody to tell me don't go

1305
01:09:31,910 --> 01:09:29,220
here don't go there there's an area that

1306
01:09:33,670 --> 01:09:31,920
makes me uncomfortable to discuss not

1307
01:09:39,500 --> 01:09:33,680
because I don't want to discuss it just

1308
01:09:42,620 --> 01:09:39,510
because of how evil it is and I'm

1309
01:09:45,170 --> 01:09:42,630
talking about pizza gate mmm

1310
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I'm talking about child trafficking

1311
01:09:49,640 --> 01:09:47,460
right I discussed this many many years

1312
01:09:51,320 --> 01:09:49,650
ago in one show that I did with that

1313
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great journalist with the name of Nick

1314
01:09:55,700 --> 01:09:53,400
Bryant mm-hmm you wrote a book about the

1315
01:09:59,890 --> 01:09:55,710
Franklin scandal yeah yeah I was new to

1316
01:10:03,020 --> 01:09:59,900
that and when I read that huge bucket I

1317
01:10:07,040 --> 01:10:03,030
how can I explain 9/11

1318
01:10:08,690 --> 01:10:07,050
first of all took my innocence away just

1319
01:10:11,180 --> 01:10:08,700
sort of people who are listening to us I

1320
01:10:15,110 --> 01:10:11,190
know there are many people who woke up

1321
01:10:18,740 --> 01:10:15,120
because of 9/11 before 9/11 anything the

1322
01:10:21,050 --> 01:10:18,750
media said I used to just eat it hook

1323
01:10:23,480 --> 01:10:21,060
line and sinker and then one of my

1324
01:10:25,670 --> 01:10:23,490
brothers after 9/11 came to me and said

1325
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by the way he worked in the airline

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industry by the way and he said by the

1327
01:10:32,270 --> 01:10:29,520
way nothing crashed at the Pentagon and

1328
01:10:36,430 --> 01:10:32,280
here's proof and a way he said that to

1329
01:10:39,050 --> 01:10:36,440
me I thought how dare you imply that our

1330
01:10:41,180 --> 01:10:39,060
well-intentioned government had anything

1331
01:10:43,460 --> 01:10:41,190
to do with this I didn't speak with to

1332
01:10:45,740 --> 01:10:43,470
him for you for four months but in

1333
01:10:48,770 --> 01:10:45,750
silence I started looking into 9/11 and

1334
01:10:53,180 --> 01:10:48,780
I thought my goodness we have been

1335
01:10:55,010 --> 01:10:53,190
fooled so you know fast forward to to

1336
01:10:56,360 --> 01:10:55,020
this Franklin scandal issue which

1337
01:10:57,680 --> 01:10:56,370
happened in the 80s

1338
01:11:01,580 --> 01:10:57,690
I wasn't aware of it until I read that

1339
01:11:05,540 --> 01:11:01,590
book I thought I cannot believe there

1340
01:11:07,700 --> 01:11:05,550
are so many deranged people within our

1341
01:11:10,040 --> 01:11:07,710
own government people that we elect

1342
01:11:13,250 --> 01:11:10,050
thinking these are the people I want my

1343
01:11:15,860 --> 01:11:13,260
kids to listen to and emulate and these

1344
01:11:18,950 --> 01:11:15,870
are the people that are behind all these

1345
01:11:21,290 --> 01:11:18,960
in a child trafficking and child porn

1346
01:11:23,480 --> 01:11:21,300
and all this this is an area that I

1347
01:11:26,390 --> 01:11:23,490
don't like to go and discuss too much

1348
01:11:28,700 --> 01:11:26,400
because I've realized from that

1349
01:11:30,830 --> 01:11:28,710
interview which became very popular but

1350
01:11:32,690 --> 01:11:30,840
at the same time people sometimes said

1351
01:11:36,410 --> 01:11:32,700
to me it's like roadkill

1352
01:11:38,270 --> 01:11:36,420
we know the corpse is right there but we

1353
01:11:40,220 --> 01:11:38,280
just want to walk by and don't even look

1354
01:11:42,140 --> 01:11:40,230
at it that's right so that's an area

1355
01:11:45,800 --> 01:11:42,150
that I don't like to discuss anything

1356
01:11:50,990 --> 01:11:45,810
else goes if it matters to us if we have

1357
01:11:53,510 --> 01:11:51,000
to find out what our his - story truly

1358
01:11:55,490 --> 01:11:53,520
is and we need to just go back in and

1359
01:11:58,910 --> 01:11:55,500
rewrite the post of what they used to be

1360
01:12:00,860 --> 01:11:58,920
and rediscover our true origins that is

1361
01:12:02,990 --> 01:12:00,870
actually my favorite this is what really

1362
01:12:05,690 --> 01:12:03,000
motivates me to be the catalyst

1363
01:12:07,430 --> 01:12:05,700
every time I interview someone I want to

1364
01:12:10,940 --> 01:12:07,440
find something about our past that

1365
01:12:13,220 --> 01:12:10,950
allows us to have a better future which

1366
01:12:16,100 --> 01:12:13,230
seems to me that the powers the one to

1367
01:12:18,590 --> 01:12:16,110
be have been erasing our history so that

1368
01:12:20,240 --> 01:12:18,600
we don't unlock our full potential if

1369
01:12:22,940 --> 01:12:20,250
you had to ask me Mel what's the biggest

1370
01:12:25,610 --> 01:12:22,950
conspiracy I would tell you the biggest

1371
01:12:28,880 --> 01:12:25,620
conspiracy of all is the secret to our

1372
01:12:30,680 --> 01:12:28,890
own potential so in summary I go

1373
01:12:34,070 --> 01:12:30,690
wherever the truth is it doesn't matter

1374
01:12:36,830 --> 01:12:34,080
how hard it is I would rather I would

1375
01:12:39,770 --> 01:12:36,840
rather it be painful then live in a lie

1376
01:12:43,280 --> 01:12:39,780
and be comfortable as it is the case

1377
01:12:44,630 --> 01:12:43,290
with most people the Franklin scandal

1378
01:12:47,810 --> 01:12:44,640
and we're not going to discuss that

1379
01:12:52,720 --> 01:12:47,820
right now but I did the exact same thing

1380
01:12:55,700 --> 01:12:52,730
I put that book down and because it was

1381
01:12:57,350 --> 01:12:55,710
it was based on fact that's that's the

1382
01:13:01,010 --> 01:12:57,360
other twisted thing here right this

1383
01:13:04,280 --> 01:13:01,020
wasn't you know it was and presented it

1384
01:13:08,270 --> 01:13:04,290
in such a way that for most people

1385
01:13:09,770 --> 01:13:08,280
including myself the reality of this

1386
01:13:14,029 --> 01:13:09,780
actually happening at

1387
01:13:16,580 --> 01:13:14,039
the highest levels of government was a

1388
01:13:17,839 --> 01:13:16,590
game-changer for me and it frightened me

1389
01:13:20,660 --> 01:13:17,849
at the same time and you're absolutely

1390
01:13:22,609 --> 01:13:20,670
right it's difficult to talk about it's

1391
01:13:25,609 --> 01:13:22,619
even more difficult just to think about

1392
01:13:28,819 --> 01:13:25,619
and contemplate all right that but that

1393
01:13:31,609 --> 01:13:28,829
book was a game-changer for me but I do

1394
01:13:35,149 --> 01:13:31,619
the same thing now I tend to leave that

1395
01:13:39,109 --> 01:13:35,159
alone I went through the Sandusky

1396
01:13:41,750 --> 01:13:39,119
scandal and when that broke we were the

1397
01:13:44,990 --> 01:13:41,760
first if not one of the it was by

1398
01:13:46,879 --> 01:13:45,000
Seconds by the way to report on this and

1399
01:13:49,850 --> 01:13:46,889
to break that story we had done that on

1400
01:13:51,799 --> 01:13:49,860
a Friday and we went through Friday

1401
01:13:53,140 --> 01:13:51,809
morning live on the air and that we went

1402
01:13:56,450 --> 01:13:53,150
through everything

1403
01:13:59,089 --> 01:13:56,460
over the weekend getting crazy email

1404
01:14:02,089 --> 01:13:59,099
crazy stuff that we broke in a couple of

1405
01:14:07,359 --> 01:14:02,099
networks had contacted us and you know

1406
01:14:10,490 --> 01:14:07,369
was this true by Monday morning finally

1407
01:14:12,950 --> 01:14:10,500
CNN broke the story the ESPN didn't

1408
01:14:17,149 --> 01:14:12,960
touch it all weekend nobody touched the

1409
01:14:21,680 --> 01:14:17,159
story and it was rough well suddenly we

1410
01:14:25,189 --> 01:14:21,690
were thrust into this pedophilia

1411
01:14:27,709 --> 01:14:25,199
specialist journalists thing and I know

1412
01:14:31,819 --> 01:14:27,719
I I did a comedy sports show

1413
01:14:34,040 --> 01:14:31,829
I did a comedy sports show and now all

1414
01:14:37,430 --> 01:14:34,050
of a sudden I am dealing with this every

1415
01:14:39,950 --> 01:14:37,440
single day and it was the headline news

1416
01:14:42,760 --> 01:14:39,960
I'm getting fed information and I

1417
01:14:45,709 --> 01:14:42,770
couldn't do it anymore I did it for like

1418
01:14:46,189 --> 01:14:45,719
no man it was probably every day for six

1419
01:14:48,589 --> 01:14:46,199
weeks

1420
01:14:50,959 --> 01:14:48,599
and one day I was like I'm done I just

1421
01:14:53,359 --> 01:14:50,969
cannot and and I just won't go so one

1422
01:14:55,370 --> 01:14:53,369
pizza gate started to break and some of

1423
01:14:58,729 --> 01:14:55,380
these other things and I realized that's

1424
01:15:02,000 --> 01:14:58,739
part of our reality but it's it it it

1425
01:15:05,479 --> 01:15:02,010
makes me ill right it physically messes

1426
01:15:07,479 --> 01:15:05,489
with me and and I can't I can't do it I

1427
01:15:09,680 --> 01:15:07,489
just I can't I'll let other

1428
01:15:12,200 --> 01:15:09,690
professionals out there deal with it and

1429
01:15:14,479 --> 01:15:12,210
they can deal with it very well I just

1430
01:15:17,209 --> 01:15:14,489
can't do it here I can't it just messes

1431
01:15:20,180 --> 01:15:17,219
with my head so I do respect that take

1432
01:15:23,570 --> 01:15:20,190
but what about what about something like

1433
01:15:26,900 --> 01:15:23,580
Flat Earth okay

1434
01:15:29,210 --> 01:15:26,910
what what about something like that how

1435
01:15:32,360 --> 01:15:29,220
do you have you had on any of the

1436
01:15:34,430 --> 01:15:32,370
flatter of guys I have in fact you have

1437
01:15:37,160 --> 01:15:34,440
no idea how many have written to me this

1438
01:15:39,350 --> 01:15:37,170
afternoon after you posted that I was

1439
01:15:42,260 --> 01:15:39,360
gonna be on show you know I said to me

1440
01:15:46,370 --> 01:15:42,270
you better find a way to bring the flat

1441
01:15:51,470 --> 01:15:46,380
earth with Jimmy so you asked I didn't

1442
01:15:55,220 --> 01:15:51,480
want to bring it up I've had on mark

1443
01:15:57,590 --> 01:15:55,230
Sargent on the show yes I've had and I

1444
01:16:00,410 --> 01:15:57,600
told mark going into the channels like

1445
01:16:03,230 --> 01:16:00,420
dude really I have an open mind about

1446
01:16:05,210 --> 01:16:03,240
everything I do let's do you know bring

1447
01:16:07,940 --> 01:16:05,220
it let's talk about it I want to learn

1448
01:16:10,040 --> 01:16:07,950
but dude the earth is round so we're

1449
01:16:11,510 --> 01:16:10,050
gonna have a hard show you're and he

1450
01:16:13,580 --> 01:16:11,520
said you know what Jimmy let's just

1451
01:16:15,710 --> 01:16:13,590
let's just put it all on the table and

1452
01:16:17,600 --> 01:16:15,720
let's have a have a good old-fashioned

1453
01:16:19,580 --> 01:16:17,610
fistfight and however it comes out of

1454
01:16:22,760 --> 01:16:19,590
the inlets let's just have some fun with

1455
01:16:27,470 --> 01:16:22,770
it all right but and I did it that one

1456
01:16:31,550 --> 01:16:27,480
time and but with you when something

1457
01:16:35,720 --> 01:16:31,560
like that comes up where we have the all

1458
01:16:38,960 --> 01:16:35,730
of the scientist that were persecuted

1459
01:16:41,030 --> 01:16:38,970
and jailed and put to death yelling that

1460
01:16:42,740 --> 01:16:41,040
the earth was round and not the center

1461
01:16:45,260 --> 01:16:42,750
of the known universe that everything

1462
01:16:48,620 --> 01:16:45,270
else that it went around the Sun and it

1463
01:16:50,990 --> 01:16:48,630
was round and and the oceans don't end

1464
01:16:55,070 --> 01:16:51,000
you know you can keep sailing your boat

1465
01:16:57,080 --> 01:16:55,080
it second of all because before that

1466
01:16:58,790 --> 01:16:57,090
everybody believed that the earth was

1467
01:16:59,710 --> 01:16:58,800
flat so we go through all of this to

1468
01:17:02,120 --> 01:16:59,720
finally

1469
01:17:05,120 --> 01:17:02,130
scientifically show everybody that it

1470
01:17:07,610 --> 01:17:05,130
was round and now we want to go back to

1471
01:17:10,640 --> 01:17:07,620
for all of those guys the men and women

1472
01:17:13,940 --> 01:17:10,650
that died and you know we're jailed over

1473
01:17:16,280 --> 01:17:13,950
this I think that's really muddies some

1474
01:17:18,770 --> 01:17:16,290
very important names out there that

1475
01:17:20,600 --> 01:17:18,780
that's my take I mean why go and do it

1476
01:17:22,550 --> 01:17:20,610
well let me just say first of all my

1477
01:17:25,100 --> 01:17:22,560
hats off to you if he had somebody

1478
01:17:27,140 --> 01:17:25,110
anyone in the Flat Earth community and I

1479
01:17:30,470 --> 01:17:27,150
know mark Sargent is a very respective

1480
01:17:34,040 --> 01:17:30,480
researcher but to me it was different

1481
01:17:36,860 --> 01:17:34,050
this is May of 2015 we had a forum at ER

1482
01:17:37,459 --> 01:17:36,870
our website and they started posting all

1483
01:17:39,229 --> 01:17:37,469
of this

1484
01:17:41,540 --> 01:17:39,239
and I started getting emails from people

1485
01:17:44,600 --> 01:17:41,550
hey Mel what do you think about this and

1486
01:17:45,229 --> 01:17:44,610
like anyone I would say please don't

1487
01:17:50,150 --> 01:17:45,239
bother me

1488
01:17:53,450 --> 01:17:50,160
with this this is ridiculous

1489
01:17:55,189 --> 01:17:53,460
I collect globes I even have a Tiffany

1490
01:17:57,800 --> 01:17:55,199
globe that they gave me when I left the

1491
01:18:00,110 --> 01:17:57,810
corporate world that I cherish a lot so

1492
01:18:04,340 --> 01:18:00,120
the globe was very important to me in

1493
01:18:07,209 --> 01:18:04,350
May of 2015 I decided one person that I

1494
01:18:09,290 --> 01:18:07,219
know a very very successful Canadian

1495
01:18:13,670 --> 01:18:09,300
entrepreneur came to me and said look

1496
01:18:17,000 --> 01:18:13,680
you know me I'm not a fool I am well

1497
01:18:19,220 --> 01:18:17,010
educated and I please ask you as a

1498
01:18:22,100 --> 01:18:19,230
courtesy to me and my friendship towards

1499
01:18:25,430 --> 01:18:22,110
you please watch this video and it was

1500
01:18:27,620 --> 01:18:25,440
an Eric Dubay video video and I watched

1501
01:18:29,240 --> 01:18:27,630
it from beginning to end and I just

1502
01:18:31,900 --> 01:18:29,250
could not believe what I was watching

1503
01:18:35,120 --> 01:18:31,910
and some of the things he was saying

1504
01:18:39,590 --> 01:18:35,130
made so much sense the fact that we have

1505
01:18:42,320 --> 01:18:39,600
never seen an image from NASA of our

1506
01:18:44,570 --> 01:18:42,330
planet Earth and every single one of

1507
01:18:47,780 --> 01:18:44,580
them and I've checked all of them at

1508
01:18:50,479 --> 01:18:47,790
least the ones that are public you know

1509
01:18:52,490 --> 01:18:50,489
year after year after year the earth

1510
01:18:54,290 --> 01:18:52,500
looks different the continents look

1511
01:18:56,840 --> 01:18:54,300
different the u.s. looks bigger one time

1512
01:18:58,970 --> 01:18:56,850
it goes on a diet the next one Africa

1513
01:18:59,390 --> 01:18:58,980
looks smaller and one the colors are

1514
01:19:01,250 --> 01:18:59,400
different

1515
01:19:03,590 --> 01:19:01,260
the Japanese pictures of Chinese the

1516
01:19:06,620 --> 01:19:03,600
Russians they're all different you would

1517
01:19:09,650 --> 01:19:06,630
think that the 21st century we would

1518
01:19:12,380 --> 01:19:09,660
have a satellite that could turn and

1519
01:19:16,160 --> 01:19:12,390
take a picture of our planet or even

1520
01:19:19,700 --> 01:19:16,170
have a camera on the moon that takes an

1521
01:19:22,250 --> 01:19:19,710
image of planet Earth 24/7 but we don't

1522
01:19:23,870 --> 01:19:22,260
have a single image then I always tell

1523
01:19:25,820 --> 01:19:23,880
this story and again I'm not saying that

1524
01:19:29,300 --> 01:19:25,830
I'm a flat earther no I'm saying I'm

1525
01:19:31,670 --> 01:19:29,310
open to the possibilities and I have a

1526
01:19:33,680 --> 01:19:31,680
lot of questions and nobody seems to be

1527
01:19:36,200 --> 01:19:33,690
able to answer the only thing they say

1528
01:19:37,100 --> 01:19:36,210
is my gut mail cannot believe it I'm

1529
01:19:40,189 --> 01:19:37,110
unsubscribing

1530
01:19:41,780 --> 01:19:40,199
you are going off the deep end and I say

1531
01:19:43,700 --> 01:19:41,790
to that when my friend david wise said

1532
01:19:46,660 --> 01:19:43,710
to me today condemnation without

1533
01:19:48,629 --> 01:19:46,670
investigation is the admission of your

1534
01:19:52,049 --> 01:19:48,639
indoctrination

1535
01:19:55,770 --> 01:19:52,059
I have a beach home in Mexico and every

1536
01:19:58,620 --> 01:19:55,780
time in the afternoon I see another side

1537
01:20:02,040 --> 01:19:58,630
of Baja California and they can see the

1538
01:20:04,770 --> 01:20:02,050
mountains from top to bottom and I was

1539
01:20:07,020 --> 01:20:04,780
on a ship on a boat a few weeks ago and

1540
01:20:08,879 --> 01:20:07,030
I asked the captain by the way you have

1541
01:20:12,060 --> 01:20:08,889
the binoculars can you look can you tell

1542
01:20:14,129 --> 01:20:12,070
me how many miles away are we from that

1543
01:20:16,799 --> 01:20:14,139
mountain range over there oh yes sir

1544
01:20:18,600 --> 01:20:16,809
it's eighty seven point eight miles so

1545
01:20:21,629 --> 01:20:18,610
then I went home at night and I went to

1546
01:20:25,469 --> 01:20:21,639
earth curvature comm and I posted the

1547
01:20:26,399 --> 01:20:25,479
distance the height of the peak and then

1548
01:20:31,589 --> 01:20:26,409
I could not believe it

1549
01:20:33,719 --> 01:20:31,599
that peak should be 4,500 feet under the

1550
01:20:35,609 --> 01:20:33,729
curvature so these are the things that

1551
01:20:37,909 --> 01:20:35,619
when I ask somebody they immediately

1552
01:20:40,620 --> 01:20:37,919
dismiss it saying this is just bunk

1553
01:20:44,459 --> 01:20:40,630
science has proven that otherwise you

1554
01:20:47,520 --> 01:20:44,469
know when you have a a a a balloon that

1555
01:20:49,949 --> 01:20:47,530
it goes up 100 thousand feet and you

1556
01:20:51,959 --> 01:20:49,959
still see the horizon and eye level

1557
01:20:53,939 --> 01:20:51,969
you're flying a plane you you climb a

1558
01:20:56,399 --> 01:20:53,949
mountain you always see the same thing

1559
01:20:58,229 --> 01:20:56,409
so I'm open I'm open to the

1560
01:21:00,419 --> 01:20:58,239
possibilities I'm not saying one or the

1561
01:21:03,569 --> 01:21:00,429
other but I'm not convinced that we live

1562
01:21:06,709 --> 01:21:03,579
on a sphere either right right right

1563
01:21:09,060 --> 01:21:06,719
and and I respect all of that now

1564
01:21:13,139 --> 01:21:09,070
listening to that now check this out

1565
01:21:15,719 --> 01:21:13,149
this is one of the things that well I'm

1566
01:21:17,310 --> 01:21:15,729
gonna give you three three things right

1567
01:21:21,029 --> 01:21:17,320
now as quickly as I can

1568
01:21:23,250 --> 01:21:21,039
I used to live on this it was connected

1569
01:21:25,319 --> 01:21:23,260
but like an island down in Panama is

1570
01:21:28,560 --> 01:21:25,329
called Fort Amador at the Canal Zone

1571
01:21:30,569 --> 01:21:28,570
right and it's a causeway it's connected

1572
01:21:32,279 --> 01:21:30,579
it's built it's man-made it's built out

1573
01:21:34,609 --> 01:21:32,289
of the rocks that they took out of the

1574
01:21:37,919 --> 01:21:34,619
Panama Canal they built this man-made

1575
01:21:41,009 --> 01:21:37,929
base and it's called Fort Amador now off

1576
01:21:43,139 --> 01:21:41,019
in the distance is on the entrance on

1577
01:21:44,850 --> 01:21:43,149
the Pacific side to the Panama Canal so

1578
01:21:47,399 --> 01:21:44,860
outside of my house I could look

1579
01:21:48,949 --> 01:21:47,409
literally walk 50 yards I'm looking at

1580
01:21:53,489 --> 01:21:48,959
ships I'm looking at the Panama Canal

1581
01:21:57,689 --> 01:21:53,499
now off in the distance twelve miles

1582
01:22:00,239 --> 01:21:57,699
away is an island called toboga and you

1583
01:22:02,830 --> 01:22:00,249
could get in a ferry you know little

1584
01:22:05,649 --> 01:22:02,840
hotel out there a nice little B

1585
01:22:08,350 --> 01:22:05,659
each with a shark net and sharks down

1586
01:22:09,550 --> 01:22:08,360
there do like to eat people so anyway

1587
01:22:11,560 --> 01:22:09,560
there's a shop

1588
01:22:13,089 --> 01:22:11,570
nice nice island go out there and drink

1589
01:22:16,320 --> 01:22:13,099
and have a good time you take a ferry

1590
01:22:20,290 --> 01:22:16,330
out there take about 45 minutes now the

1591
01:22:21,939 --> 01:22:20,300
Panama Canal all day long these ships

1592
01:22:25,629 --> 01:22:21,949
are coming in I don't know they're

1593
01:22:27,250 --> 01:22:25,639
probably 2 hours apart you know a huge

1594
01:22:29,050 --> 01:22:27,260
you know freight liners you know

1595
01:22:32,050 --> 01:22:29,060
freighters coming through oil whatever

1596
01:22:33,790 --> 01:22:32,060
Navy ships is submarines and you see

1597
01:22:35,649 --> 01:22:33,800
them and they're in a line and they're

1598
01:22:39,669 --> 01:22:35,659
coming through then I would say to

1599
01:22:44,200 --> 01:22:39,679
myself where are the boats right these

1600
01:22:47,200 --> 01:22:44,210
huge massive car carriers that are 20 30

1601
01:22:49,750 --> 01:22:47,210
stories sticking out of above the way

1602
01:22:52,660 --> 01:22:49,760
huge you know hundreds and hundreds of

1603
01:22:55,209 --> 01:22:52,670
feet long big big massive boats and but

1604
01:22:57,640 --> 01:22:55,219
I can't see them and they would just

1605
01:23:00,189 --> 01:22:57,650
come from over the horizon they'd be in

1606
01:23:03,580 --> 01:23:00,199
a straight line and and slowly make the

1607
01:23:06,040 --> 01:23:03,590
Amazon Wow ok well one day I take my

1608
01:23:09,010 --> 01:23:06,050
first trip to to boga this island jump

1609
01:23:12,399 --> 01:23:09,020
on the ferry and we're going out and as

1610
01:23:16,270 --> 01:23:12,409
I'm getting closer to toboga I see the

1611
01:23:19,120 --> 01:23:16,280
mast of these ships over the horizon and

1612
01:23:22,270 --> 01:23:19,130
as we get closer and closer and closer I

1613
01:23:24,399 --> 01:23:22,280
would sit and then as we got to toboga I

1614
01:23:25,660 --> 01:23:24,409
saw because of the curvature of the

1615
01:23:29,609 --> 01:23:25,670
earth what's on the other side of the

1616
01:23:32,410 --> 01:23:29,619
Rison was this parking lot of ships

1617
01:23:35,320 --> 01:23:32,420
there was a hundred of them a hundred of

1618
01:23:39,189 --> 01:23:35,330
these freighters that I never saw for my

1619
01:23:41,530 --> 01:23:39,199
house but as I went out to toboga there

1620
01:23:44,410 --> 01:23:41,540
they were I was like oh right you know

1621
01:23:46,240 --> 01:23:44,420
right over the horizon there was this

1622
01:23:48,189 --> 01:23:46,250
world out there that I never knew and it

1623
01:23:49,810 --> 01:23:48,199
was when I say a parking lot of

1624
01:23:53,830 --> 01:23:49,820
freighters you need to picture this

1625
01:23:57,490 --> 01:23:53,840
it's my tens of miles wide tens of miles

1626
01:24:00,669 --> 01:23:57,500
deep with a hundred of super freighters

1627
01:24:02,200 --> 01:24:00,679
parked there now explain that if you

1628
01:24:05,050 --> 01:24:02,210
want to say the earth is flat I'm

1629
01:24:09,669 --> 01:24:05,060
telling you my eyeballs my experience

1630
01:24:11,680 --> 01:24:09,679
myself that happens and so if it was

1631
01:24:13,870 --> 01:24:11,690
flat I would have seen all of these

1632
01:24:16,899 --> 01:24:13,880
ships from my house which I never did

1633
01:24:18,370 --> 01:24:16,909
and and so so

1634
01:24:21,219 --> 01:24:18,380
I'm up to the top of the island at

1635
01:24:23,290 --> 01:24:21,229
toboga I looked down and I'm looking at

1636
01:24:25,330 --> 01:24:23,300
these ships from above very high peak

1637
01:24:27,279 --> 01:24:25,340
and I'm looking down I'm looking at my

1638
01:24:28,689 --> 01:24:27,289
house and I'm looking at this pile of

1639
01:24:31,179 --> 01:24:28,699
ships over here and I'm like wow that

1640
01:24:33,459 --> 01:24:31,189
was out there this whole time and I

1641
01:24:35,500 --> 01:24:33,469
never knew it why because of the

1642
01:24:38,560 --> 01:24:35,510
curvature of the earth now this is the

1643
01:24:41,859 --> 01:24:38,570
second point I want to bring up all of

1644
01:24:44,609 --> 01:24:41,869
the flat earthers want to say of part of

1645
01:24:47,979 --> 01:24:44,619
their evidence is you know the curve of

1646
01:24:49,890 --> 01:24:47,989
airplane windows the curve of your eye

1647
01:24:52,529 --> 01:24:49,900
the curve the fissure

1648
01:24:55,659 --> 01:24:52,539
everywhere is making it look like the

1649
01:24:57,640 --> 01:24:55,669
horizon is not flat that it's curved and

1650
01:25:00,129 --> 01:24:57,650
that the earth is curved and and so

1651
01:25:02,409 --> 01:25:00,139
forth and that that is part of the mass

1652
01:25:04,390 --> 01:25:02,419
deception out there that you are looking

1653
01:25:07,449 --> 01:25:04,400
through curves all the time to give

1654
01:25:11,040 --> 01:25:07,459
everything this curved look ok great so

1655
01:25:15,640 --> 01:25:11,050
if that is the case Mel as far as I know

1656
01:25:17,409 --> 01:25:15,650
your head is round you've got a nice

1657
01:25:19,179 --> 01:25:17,419
round head I'm looking at your picture

1658
01:25:22,330 --> 01:25:19,189
right here you've got a nice round head

1659
01:25:26,949 --> 01:25:22,340
and so what you're telling me is that if

1660
01:25:29,219 --> 01:25:26,959
you Mel or any flat earther would hold a

1661
01:25:31,600 --> 01:25:29,229
basketball next to your head

1662
01:25:34,540 --> 01:25:31,610
basketballs around your head is round

1663
01:25:36,219 --> 01:25:34,550
and you went 15 miles away and I'm

1664
01:25:38,169 --> 01:25:36,229
looking at you through a set of

1665
01:25:40,000 --> 01:25:38,179
binoculars where these buildings now are

1666
01:25:42,339 --> 01:25:40,010
standing straight these should be curved

1667
01:25:46,600 --> 01:25:42,349
because there are 12 miles away 20 miles

1668
01:25:48,279 --> 01:25:46,610
away well then your head actually if I'm

1669
01:25:52,239 --> 01:25:48,289
looking at it through a telescope should

1670
01:25:55,359 --> 01:25:52,249
be now inverted and the basketball is

1671
01:25:59,049 --> 01:25:55,369
now no longer round is that what you're

1672
01:26:03,640 --> 01:25:59,059
telling me it's either/or it's either/or

1673
01:26:06,279 --> 01:26:03,650
it's not both and I I'm here to tell you

1674
01:26:09,759 --> 01:26:06,289
Mel your head is round and it's gonna be

1675
01:26:12,790 --> 01:26:09,769
round from 20 miles away just like it is

1676
01:26:14,979 --> 01:26:12,800
when you're standing next to me it's not

1677
01:26:16,659 --> 01:26:14,989
going to be distorted with binoculars

1678
01:26:18,399 --> 01:26:16,669
it's not going to be distorted with the

1679
01:26:22,140 --> 01:26:18,409
telescope it's not going to be distorted

1680
01:26:24,939 --> 01:26:22,150
with the window of an airplane cabin

1681
01:26:28,629 --> 01:26:24,949
it's just just because we have a

1682
01:26:30,490 --> 01:26:28,639
basketball court that's flat doesn't

1683
01:26:34,000 --> 01:26:30,500
mean that we can't believe Paul

1684
01:26:36,340 --> 01:26:34,010
a pool table that has balls but I have

1685
01:26:38,770 --> 01:26:36,350
the same thing that happened with you I

1686
01:26:40,600 --> 01:26:38,780
used to see ships and you'd see the mast

1687
01:26:44,080 --> 01:26:40,610
and it would just disappear over the

1688
01:26:46,300 --> 01:26:44,090
horizon but after I saw all these videos

1689
01:26:48,820 --> 01:26:46,310
coming out I got my camera with that

1690
01:26:51,160 --> 01:26:48,830
very powerful zoom and I started looking

1691
01:26:52,870 --> 01:26:51,170
and I would even have my wife next to me

1692
01:26:55,000 --> 01:26:52,880
and by the way she thinks I'm crazy for

1693
01:26:57,310 --> 01:26:55,010
me even bringing the flutters up

1694
01:26:59,350 --> 01:26:57,320
whenever we're in Mexico I'd show her

1695
01:27:00,580 --> 01:26:59,360
like don't give me that now please don't

1696
01:27:03,970 --> 01:27:00,590
embarrass me in front of our friends

1697
01:27:06,940 --> 01:27:03,980
don't even say it so I I put my camera

1698
01:27:10,390 --> 01:27:06,950
and I assumed it what was there five

1699
01:27:12,700 --> 01:27:10,400
minutes ago it's back I can't see with

1700
01:27:14,620 --> 01:27:12,710
my own eyes but I could just look at the

1701
01:27:16,810 --> 01:27:14,630
horizon and there are plenty of fishing

1702
01:27:20,290 --> 01:27:16,820
boats there at any given time that you

1703
01:27:23,440 --> 01:27:20,300
cannot see but when i zoom I can see all

1704
01:27:25,450 --> 01:27:23,450
these boats appear on my camera how do

1705
01:27:29,320 --> 01:27:25,460
you explain that ya know it's

1706
01:27:31,540 --> 01:27:29,330
fascinating and and I am sure that there

1707
01:27:35,850 --> 01:27:31,550
are all kinds of things that come into

1708
01:27:39,040 --> 01:27:35,860
play here of atmosphere heat gravity

1709
01:27:42,250 --> 01:27:39,050
sunlight all of that stuff will create

1710
01:27:46,990 --> 01:27:42,260
an optical illusion that is amplified

1711
01:27:50,140 --> 01:27:47,000
through optics I am sure that I'm yeah

1712
01:27:53,440 --> 01:27:50,150
and I took look we all love a good

1713
01:27:57,820 --> 01:27:53,450
conspiracy we all do it would be great

1714
01:28:00,730 --> 01:27:57,830
if something like this was was real but

1715
01:28:03,340 --> 01:28:00,740
it's not but okay so I'll say this I'll

1716
01:28:05,890 --> 01:28:03,350
say this this is what is really

1717
01:28:08,320 --> 01:28:05,900
fascinating I think this is what I

1718
01:28:10,690 --> 01:28:08,330
really think just like you're so or any

1719
01:28:13,540 --> 01:28:10,700
flat earth or out there they like a good

1720
01:28:15,460 --> 01:28:13,550
debate okay it's like being on the

1721
01:28:18,010 --> 01:28:15,470
debate team okay you're gonna do this

1722
01:28:20,020 --> 01:28:18,020
and you are gonna argue this point

1723
01:28:21,640 --> 01:28:20,030
whether you believe that or not let's

1724
01:28:24,220 --> 01:28:21,650
have a good debate and let's practice on

1725
01:28:26,620 --> 01:28:24,230
it I think that's basically it all the

1726
01:28:28,420 --> 01:28:26,630
flat earthers out there the the guys

1727
01:28:31,210 --> 01:28:28,430
that are that you know posting these

1728
01:28:33,820 --> 01:28:31,220
videos and have all these facts they

1729
01:28:36,460 --> 01:28:33,830
know the earth is round they're just

1730
01:28:38,650 --> 01:28:36,470
having fun digging up the possibility

1731
01:28:40,780 --> 01:28:38,660
and presenting these facts and getting

1732
01:28:42,610 --> 01:28:40,790
the argument going and that would not be

1733
01:28:43,590 --> 01:28:42,620
so sure I wouldn't be so straighted in

1734
01:28:46,350 --> 01:28:43,600
fact

1735
01:28:48,480 --> 01:28:46,360
what bothers me about both sides they

1736
01:28:50,790 --> 01:28:48,490
the ball earthers and the flat earthers

1737
01:28:53,130 --> 01:28:50,800
is sometimes their debate becomes so

1738
01:28:56,040 --> 01:28:53,140
heated that they had this ad hominem

1739
01:28:57,870 --> 01:28:56,050
attacks all the time I would love you

1740
01:29:00,000 --> 01:28:57,880
and I are talking I'm saying that I'm

1741
01:29:03,140 --> 01:29:00,010
open-minded I am open to the

1742
01:29:06,360 --> 01:29:03,150
possibilities if I can confirm by

1743
01:29:07,080 --> 01:29:06,370
scientist scientifically NASA provide me

1744
01:29:10,170 --> 01:29:07,090
more evidence

1745
01:29:12,090 --> 01:29:10,180
I saw a an amateur rocket last year that

1746
01:29:14,880 --> 01:29:12,100
went up a hundred thousand you know feet

1747
01:29:17,610 --> 01:29:14,890
and all of a sudden in the morning you

1748
01:29:20,550 --> 01:29:17,620
could see the moon and I plotted the

1749
01:29:23,340 --> 01:29:20,560
time and at that time when the moon was

1750
01:29:26,160 --> 01:29:23,350
there it was not supposed to be visible

1751
01:29:28,830 --> 01:29:26,170
it was supposed to be over Australia so

1752
01:29:31,440 --> 01:29:28,840
when I see these things I ask questions

1753
01:29:33,420 --> 01:29:31,450
but I do it in a very very professional

1754
01:29:35,970 --> 01:29:33,430
manner I don't mean to attack anybody

1755
01:29:38,430 --> 01:29:35,980
mm-hmm you know people say ridicule you

1756
01:29:40,440 --> 01:29:38,440
for even asking that's the problem and

1757
01:29:42,180 --> 01:29:40,450
this is why it undiscussed a subject

1758
01:29:44,910 --> 01:29:42,190
that much because people get offended

1759
01:29:46,410 --> 01:29:44,920
they are so you know I don't mean to be

1760
01:29:48,960 --> 01:29:46,420
condescending but we are so brainwashed

1761
01:29:50,700 --> 01:29:48,970
not only on unordinary on the earth or

1762
01:29:53,160 --> 01:29:50,710
flat earth but there are so many other

1763
01:29:54,960 --> 01:29:53,170
topics now there's no cure for cancer

1764
01:29:56,820 --> 01:29:54,970
once you have cancer you're done once

1765
01:29:59,580 --> 01:29:56,830
you have this disease you're done and

1766
01:30:01,650 --> 01:29:59,590
people just go to the doctors they don't

1767
01:30:04,560 --> 01:30:01,660
question and they don't know that there

1768
01:30:06,210 --> 01:30:04,570
are solutions to those answers and by

1769
01:30:08,100 --> 01:30:06,220
the way I'm gonna say publicly here in

1770
01:30:11,130 --> 01:30:08,110
case people wonder why I had to cancel

1771
01:30:13,170 --> 01:30:11,140
my other health show it's because of

1772
01:30:14,850 --> 01:30:13,180
this when you get phone calls in the

1773
01:30:17,190 --> 01:30:14,860
middle of the night with a morphed voice

1774
01:30:19,430 --> 01:30:17,200
that says don't do it anymore

1775
01:30:21,600 --> 01:30:19,440
right or don't go here don't go there

1776
01:30:23,640 --> 01:30:21,610
you know maybe that's something that has

1777
01:30:26,040 --> 01:30:23,650
happened to you but you have to be

1778
01:30:27,540 --> 01:30:26,050
stupid sometimes when you ask me are

1779
01:30:29,810 --> 01:30:27,550
there certain things you don't talk

1780
01:30:32,640 --> 01:30:29,820
about and the answer is sometimes yes

1781
01:30:35,250 --> 01:30:32,650
because I want to be able to be as old

1782
01:30:37,170 --> 01:30:35,260
as possible so that when I'm old and

1783
01:30:39,030 --> 01:30:37,180
dying I want to be able to see that

1784
01:30:41,190 --> 01:30:39,040
Jiggs feel possible on my wall almost

1785
01:30:42,720 --> 01:30:41,200
complete not to mention I want to be

1786
01:30:44,340 --> 01:30:42,730
here for my daughter you want to be here

1787
01:30:47,250 --> 01:30:44,350
for your kids you don't want to be so

1788
01:30:49,380 --> 01:30:47,260
stupid to completely confront the powers

1789
01:30:52,440 --> 01:30:49,390
that be to a point that they just

1790
01:30:55,080 --> 01:30:52,450
subvert you or destroy you well in the

1791
01:30:57,089 --> 01:30:55,090
other and that's a really good way to

1792
01:30:59,250 --> 01:30:57,099
look at it there

1793
01:31:01,830 --> 01:30:59,260
I will never censor I I will never be

1794
01:31:03,869 --> 01:31:01,840
told what to do for sure right that that

1795
01:31:07,649 --> 01:31:03,879
is never gonna happen

1796
01:31:11,250 --> 01:31:07,659
but there are certain zones that I don't

1797
01:31:13,409 --> 01:31:11,260
go into for for my own ethical reasons

1798
01:31:16,889 --> 01:31:13,419
and they're not selfish reasons there

1799
01:31:18,209 --> 01:31:16,899
it's a morality issue and and an ethical

1800
01:31:20,639 --> 01:31:18,219
issue but that's it but as far as

1801
01:31:23,000 --> 01:31:20,649
censorship goes I'm so with you nobody's

1802
01:31:26,899 --> 01:31:23,010
ever gonna dictate to me what to do

1803
01:31:30,330 --> 01:31:26,909
before we leave here for this next break

1804
01:31:35,009 --> 01:31:30,340
one last thing on the flat earthers this

1805
01:31:38,849 --> 01:31:35,019
is where I do have a very very very very

1806
01:31:42,869 --> 01:31:38,859
very strong belief in issue with if the

1807
01:31:46,469 --> 01:31:42,879
earth was flat first off what would it

1808
01:31:48,839 --> 01:31:46,479
matter does it change life does it

1809
01:31:50,790 --> 01:31:48,849
change anything about what you and I are

1810
01:31:53,939 --> 01:31:50,800
doing or anybody else it does not

1811
01:31:56,310 --> 01:31:53,949
doesn't change a thing that's point

1812
01:31:58,169 --> 01:31:56,320
number one point number two yeah taking

1813
01:31:59,639 --> 01:31:58,179
over in the other segment but to me it

1814
01:32:01,979 --> 01:31:59,649
does matter and I'll tell you why okay

1815
01:32:07,009 --> 01:32:01,989
okay we can do that now and but the

1816
01:32:10,349 --> 01:32:07,019
other part is that means that just about

1817
01:32:12,479 --> 01:32:10,359
every pilot every police officer every

1818
01:32:14,819 --> 01:32:12,489
fireman every professional every teacher

1819
01:32:19,259 --> 01:32:14,829
every educator every publisher every

1820
01:32:23,849 --> 01:32:19,269
politician scientist religious leader

1821
01:32:28,679 --> 01:32:23,859
world leader on the planet is in on it

1822
01:32:32,669 --> 01:32:28,689
and that I can't buy into I can't buy

1823
01:32:35,939 --> 01:32:32,679
into it I that's we're talking about not

1824
01:32:42,719 --> 01:32:35,949
a conspiracy with NASA but a conspiracy

1825
01:32:45,959 --> 01:32:42,729
with everybody but Mel everybody but me

1826
01:32:48,330 --> 01:32:45,969
is in on it and that's that's a little

1827
01:32:50,909 --> 01:32:48,340
bit tough to digest so that that's

1828
01:32:52,439 --> 01:32:50,919
that's that's where I kind of I feel a

1829
01:32:54,419 --> 01:32:52,449
little bit comfortable in my position

1830
01:32:57,389 --> 01:32:54,429
here I think it's round I'm feeling

1831
01:33:00,089 --> 01:32:57,399
pretty good about that Mel I have an

1832
01:33:04,109 --> 01:33:00,099
answer you want it now yeah go well

1833
01:33:06,629 --> 01:33:04,119
basically when you have a a if you have

1834
01:33:07,979 --> 01:33:06,639
hamsters if you've ever had two mice the

1835
01:33:10,469 --> 01:33:07,989
first thing they do when you put them in

1836
01:33:11,400 --> 01:33:10,479
their little glass bowl the first thing

1837
01:33:13,980 --> 01:33:11,410
they do is they

1838
01:33:14,460 --> 01:33:13,990
look for an exit if they don't have an

1839
01:33:17,070 --> 01:33:14,470
exit

1840
01:33:18,480 --> 01:33:17,080
they just okay we're done we have an X

1841
01:33:20,730 --> 01:33:18,490
we don't have an exit and they start

1842
01:33:22,680 --> 01:33:20,740
putting these little toys for them to

1843
01:33:24,780 --> 01:33:22,690
play and the wheels and that's how they

1844
01:33:27,180 --> 01:33:24,790
spend their life because they know or

1845
01:33:28,860 --> 01:33:27,190
they think there's not an exit but what

1846
01:33:32,280 --> 01:33:28,870
if it just entertained this for a moment

1847
01:33:34,290 --> 01:33:32,290
what if the Flat Earth is too real and

1848
01:33:37,200 --> 01:33:34,300
we are surrounded instead of the South

1849
01:33:39,810 --> 01:33:37,210
being just going down to an - to

1850
01:33:43,650 --> 01:33:39,820
Antarctica it's actually surrounding a

1851
01:33:46,110 --> 01:33:43,660
ring of ice imagine if beyond that ring

1852
01:33:49,080 --> 01:33:46,120
of ice there are other let's call them

1853
01:33:51,630 --> 01:33:49,090
puddles like Earth with civilizations

1854
01:33:54,450 --> 01:33:51,640
like us perhaps more advanced perhaps

1855
01:33:56,580 --> 01:33:54,460
less advanced if there is if that is

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01:33:58,620 --> 01:33:56,590
possible right now there's something

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01:34:01,140 --> 01:33:58,630
going on Antarctica otherwise what would

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so many high-ranking members of society

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will be going there but if it's a ring

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around us and there are worlds beyond it

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01:34:10,860 --> 01:34:08,200
wouldn't that matter to you to be able

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01:34:13,560 --> 01:34:10,870
to find what other civilizations of

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01:34:15,710 --> 01:34:13,570
humans if they're human or perhaps what

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01:34:18,570 --> 01:34:15,720
we call extraterrestrials could be

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01:34:21,390 --> 01:34:18,580
beings from those ponds that come as

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01:34:23,670 --> 01:34:21,400
tourists to visit us here those are

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things to ponder so yes if that is a

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01:34:27,630 --> 01:34:24,520
possibility

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01:34:29,670 --> 01:34:27,640
why not seek the truth yeah absolutely

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and I do believe there is something

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going on in and in Antarctica but the

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01:34:38,880 --> 01:34:35,920
southern variety but I do I really think

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01:34:40,980 --> 01:34:38,890
that that they don't want us to know

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01:34:42,480 --> 01:34:40,990
what's going on down there

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and you know what when we come back

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we'll continue to address this because

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when it comes to dogma and the education

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system we are definitely living the big

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lie our guest tonight Mel fàbregas this

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is Veritas on fade to black I'm yours

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way out here we listen to Jimmy Church

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you're listening to fade to black always

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with Jimmy Church on the game change in

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network hi I'm Lisa Vance you're

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listening to Jim E church this is a

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televised the revolution is on radio

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[Music]

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all right welcome back fade to black our

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guest tonight Mel fàbregas veritas on

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01:39:24,880 --> 01:39:22,360
fade to black been waiting for this

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01:39:27,070 --> 01:39:24,890
great to hear his voice you see that the

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thing is it is really you know Mel you

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01:39:31,810 --> 01:39:28,910
got that you got the pipes man everybody

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01:39:34,240 --> 01:39:31,820
knows who you are from miles away it's

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really you now so what you're saying is

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01:39:39,610 --> 01:39:36,380
you're open to the idea that the earth

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01:39:42,310 --> 01:39:39,620
is round I'm open to the idea that the

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01:39:45,850 --> 01:39:42,320
earth is flat round spherical whatever

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01:39:49,180 --> 01:39:45,860
it is say that I'm not convinced with

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01:39:50,940 --> 01:39:49,190
what NASA has provided us even we can

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01:39:53,890 --> 01:39:50,950
discuss the Apollo mission if you'd like

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01:39:55,930 --> 01:39:53,900
but I have doubts about that too but

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01:39:57,970 --> 01:39:55,940
then again I talk to other people I talk

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01:40:00,070 --> 01:39:57,980
to you know the delayed Edgar Mitchell I

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01:40:02,560 --> 01:40:00,080
talked to somebody who's gonna come on

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01:40:04,690 --> 01:40:02,570
the show whose father allegedly worked

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01:40:07,000 --> 01:40:04,700
at area 51 and now that the father is

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01:40:09,070 --> 01:40:07,010
gone he's able to discuss certain things

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01:40:10,840 --> 01:40:09,080
and he's telling me that we did go to

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01:40:14,680 --> 01:40:10,850
the moon so I'm open I move with the

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01:40:16,780 --> 01:40:14,690
evidence you have to and that we're

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01:40:20,650 --> 01:40:16,790
gonna go to this next subject again it's

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01:40:25,830 --> 01:40:20,660
all connected which is this we have been

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01:40:28,540 --> 01:40:25,840
told our entire life every book every

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01:40:31,510 --> 01:40:28,550
educational history system in the world

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01:40:34,360 --> 01:40:31,520
set has told us and the focus has been

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01:40:37,930 --> 01:40:34,370
on ancient Egypt but but Mesopotamia

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01:40:42,030 --> 01:40:37,940
Sumer you know 3,000 BC the wheel fire

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01:40:45,370 --> 01:40:42,040
mathematics agriculture religion science

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01:40:48,670 --> 01:40:45,380
engineering all happened you know 3,000

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01:40:51,070 --> 01:40:48,680
BC and that before that you know man was

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01:40:53,440 --> 01:40:51,080
running around foraging for seeds right

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01:40:56,110 --> 01:40:53,450
and then gobekli tepe gets discovered

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01:40:59,830 --> 01:40:56,120
and which simply wasn't supposed to

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01:41:04,920 --> 01:40:59,840
exist and certainly not 7,000 years

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01:41:08,320 --> 01:41:04,930
prior to 3,000 BC but it is still

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01:41:11,260 --> 01:41:08,330
generally speaking ignored history books

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01:41:13,420 --> 01:41:11,270
are being rewritten right now and and

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01:41:16,750 --> 01:41:13,430
nobody wants to try to figure out what's

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01:41:18,970 --> 01:41:16,760
going on gobekli tepe should be the

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01:41:22,900 --> 01:41:18,980
headline story on all the mainstream

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01:41:25,090 --> 01:41:22,910
media for since 1995 1996 it is not and

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01:41:26,410 --> 01:41:25,100
part of that is because it's going to

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01:41:28,300 --> 01:41:26,420
have to re re

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01:41:31,630 --> 01:41:28,310
right all of that dogma that we have

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01:41:34,810 --> 01:41:31,640
been spoon-fed and that is an example of

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01:41:35,439 --> 01:41:34,820
part of the big why don't you think well

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01:41:36,850 --> 01:41:35,449
absolutely

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01:41:39,100 --> 01:41:36,860
it I mentioned to you that it lived in

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01:41:42,040 --> 01:41:39,110
Mexico and this is the first time that

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01:41:45,520 --> 01:41:42,050
it when it really hit me I was in the

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01:41:49,110 --> 01:41:45,530
middle of downtown next to the Cathedral

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01:41:52,120 --> 01:41:49,120
and I see these these you know white

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01:41:55,000 --> 01:41:52,130
blankets covering an area and it said do

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01:41:57,340 --> 01:41:55,010
not enter this white tarps and of course

2011
01:41:59,500 --> 01:41:57,350
inquisitive me I decided to just you

2012
01:42:01,209 --> 01:41:59,510
know beak in and what's going on here

2013
01:42:03,189 --> 01:42:01,219
all of a sudden I see a bunch of people

2014
01:42:06,040 --> 01:42:03,199
with little brushes you know looking and

2015
01:42:07,510 --> 01:42:06,050
on the floor and I finally was escorted

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01:42:08,260 --> 01:42:07,520
out but I asked can you please tell me

2017
01:42:10,900 --> 01:42:08,270
what's going on here

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01:42:13,290 --> 01:42:10,910
well you know we found it that under the

2019
01:42:15,340 --> 01:42:13,300
Cathedral there was a Mayan temple and

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01:42:18,160 --> 01:42:15,350
then I start looking at other churches

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01:42:20,740 --> 01:42:18,170
around Latin America and the same thing

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01:42:23,140 --> 01:42:20,750
happened in 99.9 percent of the time

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01:42:26,560 --> 01:42:23,150
when they built a cathedral or a big

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01:42:28,900 --> 01:42:26,570
church they were erasing the previous

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01:42:31,150 --> 01:42:28,910
history they didn't want the people in

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01:42:33,400 --> 01:42:31,160
the quote-unquote near world to be

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01:42:36,790 --> 01:42:33,410
looking at what those Mayans the Aztecs

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01:42:38,080 --> 01:42:36,800
the Incas did in the past and the same

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01:42:40,600 --> 01:42:38,090
thing happens with us here

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01:42:43,030 --> 01:42:40,610
you mentioned gobekli tepe same thing

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01:42:45,010 --> 01:42:43,040
why is that not in the history books why

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01:42:46,450 --> 01:42:45,020
is it that there's an Jay Wagner and I

2033
01:42:47,919 --> 01:42:46,460
talk about this all the time why is

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01:42:49,810 --> 01:42:47,929
there and Graham Hancock

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01:42:53,550 --> 01:42:49,820
by the way send prayers to him very

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01:42:55,900 --> 01:42:53,560
important would you look at this gap of

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01:42:58,720 --> 01:42:55,910
information almost as if there's a

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01:43:00,280 --> 01:42:58,730
there's a cataclysm and before that we

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01:43:02,709 --> 01:43:00,290
have the pyramids we have a lot of these

2040
01:43:06,310 --> 01:43:02,719
all of a sudden that came around the

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01:43:09,250 --> 01:43:06,320
world Baalbek in Lebanon pyramids and in

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01:43:11,439 --> 01:43:09,260
Southeast Asia all these almost as if

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01:43:14,080 --> 01:43:11,449
they were in contact with one another

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01:43:16,810 --> 01:43:14,090
because the architecture is similar

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01:43:18,610 --> 01:43:16,820
either they were able to extract the

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01:43:21,760 --> 01:43:18,620
knowledge from my skull of the Akashic

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01:43:24,760 --> 01:43:21,770
record or the ether or perhaps they

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01:43:26,950 --> 01:43:24,770
actually were the same civilization what

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01:43:29,919 --> 01:43:26,960
we call Atlantis or Lemuria or whatever

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01:43:32,530 --> 01:43:29,929
but I think that our history has been

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01:43:35,590 --> 01:43:32,540
completely completely hijacked from us

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01:43:38,229 --> 01:43:35,600
and we have more power and advanced

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01:43:39,790 --> 01:43:38,239
technology during that time now we could

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01:43:43,150 --> 01:43:39,800
possibly imagine

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01:43:44,560 --> 01:43:43,160
thousands of years later now what what

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01:43:46,570 --> 01:43:44,570
do we call them oh those soulless

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01:43:48,460 --> 01:43:46,580
savages they just need to know what they

2058
01:43:50,800 --> 01:43:48,470
were doing well if that's the case then

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01:43:53,800 --> 01:43:50,810
please tell me why can't we replicate

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01:43:55,390 --> 01:43:53,810
any of these megaliths around the world

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01:44:00,520 --> 01:43:55,400
end of story

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01:44:03,790 --> 01:44:00,530
you about that when he's when one starts

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01:44:07,810 --> 01:44:03,800
to make these revelations in your in

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01:44:10,090 --> 01:44:07,820
your brain about things like geesa geesa

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01:44:11,920 --> 01:44:10,100
is a great example because it's it's the

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01:44:14,740 --> 01:44:11,930
most famous number ones one of the most

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01:44:17,980 --> 01:44:14,750
studied but it's also very obvious and

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01:44:19,960 --> 01:44:17,990
so we have wondered about it growing up

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01:44:22,930 --> 01:44:19,970
so it's an easy target so let's just

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01:44:28,270 --> 01:44:22,940
stay with that for a second if for you

2071
01:44:29,770 --> 01:44:28,280
you had your own investigation and

2072
01:44:32,530 --> 01:44:29,780
research as a child and everything with

2073
01:44:35,470 --> 01:44:32,540
Kisa and Egypt and King Tut you know and

2074
01:44:37,840 --> 01:44:35,480
and and so you're told one thing you see

2075
01:44:40,840 --> 01:44:37,850
it in movies and books and then as you

2076
01:44:42,820 --> 01:44:40,850
start to interview those out there the

2077
01:44:45,940 --> 01:44:42,830
Graham Hancock's and the balls which

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01:44:48,640 --> 01:44:45,950
we've all as you start to discover

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01:44:51,220 --> 01:44:48,650
things when did you start to realize I

2080
01:44:53,620 --> 01:44:51,230
mean because it's a big it's a big

2081
01:44:57,370 --> 01:44:53,630
paradigm shift when did you start to

2082
01:44:59,470 --> 01:44:57,380
realize that Giza is not what we have

2083
01:45:01,260 --> 01:44:59,480
been told and that that is the case then

2084
01:45:04,000 --> 01:45:01,270
it's all a bunch of BS

2085
01:45:06,160 --> 01:45:04,010
well it's everybody has a different

2086
01:45:08,800 --> 01:45:06,170
opinion some people say that it was a

2087
01:45:09,670 --> 01:45:08,810
power plant some were saying that it was

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01:45:12,370 --> 01:45:09,680
something else

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01:45:16,270 --> 01:45:12,380
some were saying that the way it was it

2090
01:45:18,280 --> 01:45:16,280
had a gold the the what he called the

2091
01:45:22,680 --> 01:45:18,290
pinnacle of the pyramid the capstone and

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01:45:26,400 --> 01:45:22,690
they was used so that the soul of the

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01:45:29,890 --> 01:45:26,410
Pharaoh would try be transferred to

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01:45:31,870 --> 01:45:29,900
another child and that's why we would

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01:45:32,260 --> 01:45:31,880
see the Pharaoh dine at such an early

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01:45:34,240 --> 01:45:32,270
age

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01:45:35,890 --> 01:45:34,250
these are theories presented by other

2098
01:45:38,020 --> 01:45:35,900
people but you start thinking you know

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01:45:41,710 --> 01:45:38,030
maybe that's why these pharaohs were

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01:45:46,710 --> 01:45:41,720
considered fairs is like the what he

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01:45:50,470 --> 01:45:46,720
called the the main person of Buddha the

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01:45:52,510 --> 01:45:50,480
what is the person in the the Tibetan

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01:45:53,560 --> 01:45:52,520
monks what's that the main the highest

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01:45:56,560 --> 01:45:53,570
person there oh

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01:45:59,470 --> 01:45:56,570
Donnelly Lama Dalai Lama Dalai Lama same

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01:46:01,720 --> 01:45:59,480
thing what if they were they knew of a

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01:46:03,610 --> 01:46:01,730
way in which consciousness would be

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01:46:07,150 --> 01:46:03,620
transfer of one person to the other and

2109
01:46:09,520 --> 01:46:07,160
that's how we could live forever so the

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01:46:11,950 --> 01:46:09,530
pyramids is that an enigma in so many

2111
01:46:14,890 --> 01:46:11,960
ways I mean before there was water in

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01:46:16,690 --> 01:46:14,900
that area you have these Fink's that the

2113
01:46:20,320 --> 01:46:16,700
phase was completely changed to what it

2114
01:46:23,200 --> 01:46:20,330
was before but again I don't think that

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01:46:25,780 --> 01:46:23,210
the ego presented to us by these text

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01:46:27,760 --> 01:46:25,790
books and the Rothschilds who are behind

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01:46:29,710 --> 01:46:27,770
the educational system and the health

2118
01:46:33,160 --> 01:46:29,720
system they don't want us to be just

2119
01:46:35,830 --> 01:46:33,170
this rediscovering our true past because

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01:46:38,410 --> 01:46:35,840
then if that's the case we're gonna go

2121
01:46:40,720 --> 01:46:38,420
before that why is it that it's just the

2122
01:46:43,390 --> 01:46:40,730
pyramid what about other things that we

2123
01:46:45,820 --> 01:46:43,400
are finding the Yonaguni pyramids

2124
01:46:48,730 --> 01:46:45,830
under this sea in Japan which some

2125
01:46:50,440 --> 01:46:48,740
people say our natural formations but

2126
01:46:53,560 --> 01:46:50,450
when you start looking at the work of

2127
01:46:56,140 --> 01:46:53,570
Graham Hancock on others scuba diving

2128
01:46:58,930 --> 01:46:56,150
and seeing how it's straight and then

2129
01:47:01,630 --> 01:46:58,940
90-degree angles you know you have to

2130
01:47:03,250 --> 01:47:01,640
ask yourself why is this knowledge being

2131
01:47:05,110 --> 01:47:03,260
hidden from us as you were saying before

2132
01:47:06,970 --> 01:47:05,120
with the Flat Earth why can't we just

2133
01:47:11,860 --> 01:47:06,980
say what does it matter if we live in a

2134
01:47:13,420 --> 01:47:11,870
flat earth or a sphere well because when

2135
01:47:15,610 --> 01:47:13,430
we find the truth about our past and we

2136
01:47:17,980 --> 01:47:15,620
find out that it's a lie mm-hmm then it

2137
01:47:23,520 --> 01:47:17,990
makes you wonder what else they're lying

2138
01:47:28,240 --> 01:47:23,530
about why is it that we are so easily

2139
01:47:30,040 --> 01:47:28,250
deceived I'll give you an example before

2140
01:47:32,830 --> 01:47:30,050
you answer that we just talked about you

2141
01:47:36,970 --> 01:47:32,840
know everything being created at 3,000

2142
01:47:40,830 --> 01:47:36,980
BC before 3,000 BC is certainly what

2143
01:47:44,800 --> 01:47:40,840
history has been taught to us is that

2144
01:47:48,520 --> 01:47:44,810
one day there was nothing and the next

2145
01:47:51,310 --> 01:47:48,530
day sculptures pyramids you know

2146
01:47:54,700 --> 01:47:51,320
quarrying of red granite being moved

2147
01:47:57,430 --> 01:47:54,710
around these days Baalbek and in

2148
01:48:01,030 --> 01:47:57,440
mathematics and TrueNorth and geometry

2149
01:48:03,760 --> 01:48:01,040
and and cultivating wheat and domestic

2150
01:48:06,970 --> 01:48:03,770
all of this stuff happened suddenly we

2151
01:48:09,210 --> 01:48:06,980
had a perfectly upright and walking

2152
01:48:12,450 --> 01:48:09,220
civilization that's what they actually

2153
01:48:15,910 --> 01:48:12,460
wanted us and want us to believe as

2154
01:48:19,060 --> 01:48:15,920
impossible as that sounds but we took

2155
01:48:22,320 --> 01:48:19,070
the bait mal we didn't question that why

2156
01:48:24,970 --> 01:48:22,330
is it the weird so easily deceived

2157
01:48:27,940 --> 01:48:24,980
well let me just say what Edgar Mitchell

2158
01:48:31,229 --> 01:48:27,950
told me the one time we spoke he said to

2159
01:48:35,860 --> 01:48:31,239
me my parents came from horse-and-buggy

2160
01:48:38,979 --> 01:48:35,870
to New Mexico from the East Coast and in

2161
01:48:42,490 --> 01:48:38,989
66 years or less than a hundred years

2162
01:48:44,770 --> 01:48:42,500
actually I went to the moon so this

2163
01:48:47,920 --> 01:48:44,780
explosion of technology happened in the

2164
01:48:51,340 --> 01:48:47,930
infinite in the past 100 years but when

2165
01:48:54,940 --> 01:48:51,350
he comes to all that why is it that we

2166
01:48:58,270 --> 01:48:54,950
are not told that perhaps humans existed

2167
01:48:59,770 --> 01:48:58,280
and had more technology I mean what

2168
01:49:01,960 --> 01:48:59,780
happens right now there's another

2169
01:49:04,750 --> 01:49:01,970
Cataclysm ours that dr. Paul IV led for

2170
01:49:07,270 --> 01:49:04,760
example at Carrington event we're gonna

2171
01:49:08,680 --> 01:49:07,280
be without electricity for many many

2172
01:49:11,350 --> 01:49:08,690
years but let's say it's that nuclear

2173
01:49:13,450 --> 01:49:11,360
attacking or what have you and then all

2174
01:49:15,310 --> 01:49:13,460
of a sudden the few survivors and the

2175
01:49:17,440 --> 01:49:15,320
features that start digging and they

2176
01:49:19,210 --> 01:49:17,450
start seeing plastic oh these were the

2177
01:49:21,100 --> 01:49:19,220
plastic people right and they see an

2178
01:49:23,650 --> 01:49:21,110
iPhone and once this little square maybe

2179
01:49:26,080 --> 01:49:23,660
these are bricks to build a wallet and

2180
01:49:27,580 --> 01:49:26,090
laptops and computers they wouldn't be

2181
01:49:29,860 --> 01:49:27,590
able to know what to do with them

2182
01:49:31,660 --> 01:49:29,870
that's right No zecharia sitchin when he

2183
01:49:33,610 --> 01:49:31,670
told me you know what happens with these

2184
01:49:35,740 --> 01:49:33,620
papers I have in my left hand or these

2185
01:49:39,010 --> 01:49:35,750
cuneiform tablets on my right hand which

2186
01:49:41,229 --> 01:49:39,020
one do you think will will survive the

2187
01:49:43,210 --> 01:49:41,239
test of time that's right and of course

2188
01:49:46,030 --> 01:49:43,220
we know which one it is so instead of

2189
01:49:48,280 --> 01:49:46,040
criticizing our ancestors why don't we

2190
01:49:51,400 --> 01:49:48,290
look more at as to what they did and try

2191
01:49:53,770 --> 01:49:51,410
to understand how they were able to live

2192
01:49:55,750 --> 01:49:53,780
perhaps and you know I don't want to

2193
01:49:57,820 --> 01:49:55,760
sound you AG but something tells me

2194
01:49:59,680 --> 01:49:57,830
there was unity consciousness at one

2195
01:50:04,390 --> 01:49:59,690
point in our past perhaps one language

2196
01:50:06,280 --> 01:50:04,400
if we actually use our mouths I honestly

2197
01:50:08,729 --> 01:50:06,290
I think that in the past we have the

2198
01:50:11,530 --> 01:50:08,739
ability to communicate mentally

2199
01:50:13,780 --> 01:50:11,540
telepathically telekinesis pre cognition

2200
01:50:16,390 --> 01:50:13,790
all these things were there in the past

2201
01:50:18,490 --> 01:50:16,400
perhaps we even lived a longer time even

2202
01:50:20,860 --> 01:50:18,500
the Bible and I'm I'm not a religious

2203
01:50:22,780 --> 01:50:20,870
person but the Bible says that

2204
01:50:25,090 --> 01:50:22,790
in first estimate over a thousand years

2205
01:50:27,490 --> 01:50:25,100
and then it went down to like 200 so

2206
01:50:29,320 --> 01:50:27,500
what happened to our longevity and then

2207
01:50:31,780 --> 01:50:29,330
you have GMOs and then you have the

2208
01:50:34,030 --> 01:50:31,790
electromagnetic wave and soup that we

2209
01:50:37,270 --> 01:50:34,040
live in right now it makes you wonder if

2210
01:50:39,940 --> 01:50:37,280
this legalization of cannabis this Bush

2211
01:50:42,850 --> 01:50:39,950
that we're seeing is perhaps because you

2212
01:50:45,640 --> 01:50:42,860
know we have 5g coming this is an

2213
01:50:47,710 --> 01:50:45,650
improving uncharted territory what will

2214
01:50:50,080 --> 01:50:47,720
happen in the future could more cancer

2215
01:50:52,630 --> 01:50:50,090
be happening and this is why they know

2216
01:50:55,630 --> 01:50:52,640
that cannabis is good for it actually

2217
01:50:57,370 --> 01:50:55,640
can cure cancer and perhaps they need to

2218
01:50:59,890 --> 01:50:57,380
release that so that the population

2219
01:51:03,730 --> 01:50:59,900
doesn't just disappear right right right

2220
01:51:07,660 --> 01:51:03,740
well I've you know animals without a

2221
01:51:09,040 --> 01:51:07,670
doubt communicate without talking right

2222
01:51:11,170 --> 01:51:09,050
there's no question about that

2223
01:51:14,770 --> 01:51:11,180
and when one of the most fascinating

2224
01:51:17,770 --> 01:51:14,780
things to me has been proven over and

2225
01:51:20,350 --> 01:51:17,780
over again not the same time of day it

2226
01:51:23,440 --> 01:51:20,360
could be any time but your dog if you

2227
01:51:26,560 --> 01:51:23,450
are driving up the street knows you are

2228
01:51:30,310 --> 01:51:26,570
coming home right and will be at the

2229
01:51:33,250 --> 01:51:30,320
door when you get there he knows he

2230
01:51:35,170 --> 01:51:33,260
doesn't hear you he doesn't see you he

2231
01:51:38,080 --> 01:51:35,180
doesn't you know see you turning the

2232
01:51:39,910 --> 01:51:38,090
corner a mile away at a stoplight he

2233
01:51:42,700 --> 01:51:39,920
doesn't see any of that but he knows

2234
01:51:45,400 --> 01:51:42,710
you're coming home there is some kind of

2235
01:51:47,620 --> 01:51:45,410
of communication that happens with

2236
01:51:51,250 --> 01:51:47,630
animals and and the way that they are

2237
01:51:52,960 --> 01:51:51,260
able to do that we lost AI apps I

2238
01:51:55,390 --> 01:51:52,970
totally agree with that

2239
01:51:58,320 --> 01:51:55,400
whether it's technology that has forced

2240
01:52:01,090 --> 01:51:58,330
us away from that distracted with

2241
01:52:04,450 --> 01:52:01,100
television and news and newspapers and

2242
01:52:07,810 --> 01:52:04,460
maybe even books work you know a lot of

2243
01:52:12,460 --> 01:52:07,820
things have have taken us away from the

2244
01:52:13,660 --> 01:52:12,470
self you know that you know 2000 3000

2245
01:52:17,440 --> 01:52:13,670
4000 years ago

2246
01:52:19,090 --> 01:52:17,450
entertainment was the Stars that was

2247
01:52:23,350 --> 01:52:19,100
that well you know that was the Ford II

2248
01:52:25,810 --> 01:52:23,360
TV that was the high-rez cinema was

2249
01:52:28,690 --> 01:52:25,820
looking up at the stars and there was a

2250
01:52:30,160 --> 01:52:28,700
communication of self with everybody

2251
01:52:32,590 --> 01:52:30,170
because they didn't have those

2252
01:52:34,210 --> 01:52:32,600
distractions they knew what the brain

2253
01:52:37,270 --> 01:52:34,220
could do what that with

2254
01:52:40,270 --> 01:52:37,280
all could do I really really believe

2255
01:52:43,120 --> 01:52:40,280
that I don't know how or why we got away

2256
01:52:44,830 --> 01:52:43,130
from it but I think that we are starting

2257
01:52:47,620 --> 01:52:44,840
to realize that there was something from

2258
01:52:50,590 --> 01:52:47,630
the past and we are going to continue to

2259
01:52:53,250 --> 01:52:50,600
try to discover what the ancients knew

2260
01:52:56,170 --> 01:52:53,260
and we're getting closer every day

2261
01:52:59,740 --> 01:52:56,180
absolutely I mean look at the 2004

2262
01:53:01,000 --> 01:52:59,750
Indian Ocean tsunami thousands of people

2263
01:53:04,060 --> 01:53:01,010
died or disappeared

2264
01:53:07,390 --> 01:53:04,070
but there's one tribe in Indonesia all

2265
01:53:09,790 --> 01:53:07,400
of it survived except for one person who

2266
01:53:12,430 --> 01:53:09,800
was the a paraplegic person who could

2267
01:53:15,070 --> 01:53:12,440
not summon help but all those people

2268
01:53:16,990 --> 01:53:15,080
from that tribe they I don't know they

2269
01:53:19,270 --> 01:53:17,000
followed other animals or they had their

2270
01:53:22,300 --> 01:53:19,280
instinct to go up the mountain so

2271
01:53:25,420 --> 01:53:22,310
something tells me that our indigenous

2272
01:53:27,670 --> 01:53:25,430
people around the world still hold that

2273
01:53:30,880 --> 01:53:27,680
secret either they have the capability

2274
01:53:32,650 --> 01:53:30,890
because they're not very programmed and

2275
01:53:36,190 --> 01:53:32,660
they still have that connection with

2276
01:53:37,960 --> 01:53:36,200
planet Earth but we need to be able to

2277
01:53:40,030 --> 01:53:37,970
reconnect with that that's why I tell

2278
01:53:42,160 --> 01:53:40,040
people disconnect yourself from the

2279
01:53:45,370 --> 01:53:42,170
subliminal tube disconnect yourself from

2280
01:53:47,440 --> 01:53:45,380
TVs and I did an experiment a few weeks

2281
01:53:48,790 --> 01:53:47,450
ago I went to you know vacation in the

2282
01:53:50,830 --> 01:53:48,800
Caribbean with my wife and daughter

2283
01:53:54,240 --> 01:53:50,840
and for the first time in years I

2284
01:53:56,800 --> 01:53:54,250
decided to leave my phone in the hotel I

2285
01:53:58,240 --> 01:53:56,810
said to myself I'm on vacation I'm with

2286
01:54:00,160 --> 01:53:58,250
my wife she's the only one that needs to

2287
01:54:02,710 --> 01:54:00,170
call me so I left it behind I bought

2288
01:54:06,160 --> 01:54:02,720
myself a camera and I'm telling you I

2289
01:54:08,470 --> 01:54:06,170
fell so so much relieved and connected

2290
01:54:10,600 --> 01:54:08,480
with my family in my environment these

2291
01:54:11,950 --> 01:54:10,610
people that leave their their jobs to go

2292
01:54:14,080 --> 01:54:11,960
on vacation and they're still connected

2293
01:54:16,660 --> 01:54:14,090
checking the email checking their texts

2294
01:54:19,270 --> 01:54:16,670
all the time perhaps this is just the

2295
01:54:22,180 --> 01:54:19,280
beginning of how to reconnect with with

2296
01:54:23,890 --> 01:54:22,190
with the the world earthing another

2297
01:54:25,870 --> 01:54:23,900
thing that I discovered a couple of

2298
01:54:30,340 --> 01:54:25,880
years ago I used to think this is just

2299
01:54:32,620 --> 01:54:30,350
pure baloney but I tested the earthing

2300
01:54:35,320 --> 01:54:32,630
and every pain that I had on my knee or

2301
01:54:37,600 --> 01:54:35,330
my back went away I sleep like a baby

2302
01:54:39,760 --> 01:54:37,610
and I recommend it to everybody if you

2303
01:54:41,800 --> 01:54:39,770
don't if you don't have the mats go out

2304
01:54:43,750 --> 01:54:41,810
on the beach go out on the force take

2305
01:54:45,820 --> 01:54:43,760
your shoes off do whatever you so often

2306
01:54:48,070 --> 01:54:45,830
and I'm telling you it's gonna help you

2307
01:54:51,070 --> 01:54:48,080
your life psychologically

2308
01:54:54,070 --> 01:54:51,080
Clee mentally so just such an important

2309
01:54:56,290 --> 01:54:54,080
thing now what we we've gone through a

2310
01:54:58,450 --> 01:54:56,300
few of these pop culture things that

2311
01:55:02,380 --> 01:54:58,460
have been running around our community

2312
01:55:06,700 --> 01:55:02,390
the last couple of years and I have to

2313
01:55:09,310 --> 01:55:06,710
say the Mandela effect smell it

2314
01:55:12,370 --> 01:55:09,320
continues to mess with me to mess with

2315
01:55:15,700 --> 01:55:12,380
my head and my own memories I can listen

2316
01:55:17,260 --> 01:55:15,710
everybody else's experiences and what

2317
01:55:20,200 --> 01:55:17,270
they remember that's fine

2318
01:55:22,660 --> 01:55:20,210
that's great but I have my own memories

2319
01:55:25,090 --> 01:55:22,670
that are being messed with here too have

2320
01:55:27,250 --> 01:55:25,100
you been have you been experiencing the

2321
01:55:29,440 --> 01:55:27,260
same thing absolutely when I heard the

2322
01:55:32,080 --> 01:55:29,450
term first I thought come on now this is

2323
01:55:33,760 --> 01:55:32,090
just another SIOP like they call the

2324
01:55:35,710 --> 01:55:33,770
Flat Earth right but then I start

2325
01:55:38,290 --> 01:55:35,720
looking at how I used to remember the

2326
01:55:40,810 --> 01:55:38,300
Flintstones I used to remember Froot

2327
01:55:42,820 --> 01:55:40,820
Loops or any of these that the

2328
01:55:45,460 --> 01:55:42,830
berenstain bears right all these things

2329
01:55:47,530 --> 01:55:45,470
and I remember them one way and then all

2330
01:55:49,330 --> 01:55:47,540
of a sudden they're completely changed

2331
01:55:52,090 --> 01:55:49,340
and I'm looking at eBay I'm looking at

2332
01:55:53,880 --> 01:55:52,100
you know places that sell all their you

2333
01:55:56,890 --> 01:55:53,890
know old stuff and it's written

2334
01:55:58,990 --> 01:55:56,900
incorrectly as I remember it some people

2335
01:55:59,410 --> 01:55:59,000
say that maybe CERN has something to do

2336
01:56:01,900 --> 01:55:59,420
with it

2337
01:56:04,780 --> 01:56:01,910
perhaps you know we are merging into

2338
01:56:06,070 --> 01:56:04,790
another parallel timeline who knows but

2339
01:56:09,520 --> 01:56:06,080
it hits me every so often

2340
01:56:12,370 --> 01:56:09,530
I remember Mandela but having died years

2341
01:56:14,980 --> 01:56:12,380
years ago before you know he died a few

2342
01:56:16,450 --> 01:56:14,990
years ago I remember that all of a

2343
01:56:18,520 --> 01:56:16,460
sudden they say old man Dale has just

2344
01:56:19,990 --> 01:56:18,530
died and I thought he was dead and the

2345
01:56:22,690 --> 01:56:20,000
same thing happens with other people I

2346
01:56:24,130 --> 01:56:22,700
tell you what there's so many different

2347
01:56:26,650 --> 01:56:24,140
examples but you know what really

2348
01:56:31,450 --> 01:56:26,660
brought it home for me was cup of

2349
01:56:33,870 --> 01:56:31,460
noodles right so now I've been eating

2350
01:56:36,700 --> 01:56:33,880
cup of noodles since high school my dad

2351
01:56:42,220 --> 01:56:36,710
okay won't bore everybody with that but

2352
01:56:45,070 --> 01:56:42,230
anyway its cup o noodles and when you

2353
01:56:47,320 --> 01:56:45,080
know an icy cup noodles today and I go

2354
01:56:51,370 --> 01:56:47,330
back and I look at all of the images

2355
01:56:56,860 --> 01:56:51,380
going back 2530 years to the mid 70s and

2356
01:56:59,980 --> 01:56:56,870
they all say cup noodles and I've no it

2357
01:57:01,720 --> 01:56:59,990
was cup of noodles man there's no way so

2358
01:57:05,110 --> 01:57:01,730
yeah you know Steve Marilla

2359
01:57:07,360 --> 01:57:05,120
right for MUFON okay well anyway he ran

2360
01:57:09,690 --> 01:57:07,370
MUFON here for 13 years in in Los

2361
01:57:14,910 --> 01:57:09,700
Angeles and now he runs another

2362
01:57:20,640 --> 01:57:18,400
United States Naval Academy grad went

2363
01:57:24,490 --> 01:57:20,650
into the Marine Corps as a fighter pilot

2364
01:57:26,890 --> 01:57:24,500
a very accomplished guy very smart guy

2365
01:57:28,810 --> 01:57:26,900
respect him a lot we're out to dinner

2366
01:57:31,330 --> 01:57:28,820
with them a couple of weeks ago we're in

2367
01:57:34,840 --> 01:57:31,340
the Mandela effect comes up at dinner I

2368
01:57:37,930 --> 01:57:34,850
third it and I go so what is it man is

2369
01:57:39,640 --> 01:57:37,940
it cup of noodles or cup noodles it's

2370
01:57:43,210 --> 01:57:39,650
like what are you talking about its cup

2371
01:57:45,670 --> 01:57:43,220
of noodles of course I said no it's cup

2372
01:57:48,700 --> 01:57:45,680
noodles take out my phone right I'm

2373
01:57:51,280 --> 01:57:48,710
showing him and he's like no so then

2374
01:57:53,350 --> 01:57:51,290
check this out Mel I said okay the next

2375
01:57:56,950 --> 01:57:53,360
person that walks by the table and we're

2376
01:57:59,680 --> 01:57:56,960
at a very nice nice restaurant next

2377
01:58:01,720 --> 01:57:59,690
person that comes by and we pick

2378
01:58:03,250 --> 01:58:01,730
somebody out walk by the table and I

2379
01:58:05,110 --> 01:58:03,260
said ok come here for a second you're

2380
01:58:07,240 --> 01:58:05,120
gonna settle a bet between me and my

2381
01:58:07,720 --> 01:58:07,250
friend here hundred dollars is on the

2382
01:58:13,120 --> 01:58:07,730
table

2383
01:58:14,710 --> 01:58:13,130
is it cup noodles it's cup of noodles

2384
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eat them all the time cut the noodles

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01:58:21,010 --> 01:58:19,010
you are you sure yes now I bet you can

2386
01:58:26,020 --> 01:58:21,020
go up and nearly hit a hundred percent

2387
01:58:29,020 --> 01:58:26,030
on this I can millions of people have

2388
01:58:31,720 --> 01:58:29,030
the wrong memory millions not not two or

2389
01:58:33,340 --> 01:58:31,730
three not just you and I but we're

2390
01:58:35,050 --> 01:58:33,350
talking about millions of people

2391
01:58:38,979 --> 01:58:35,060
involved with this phenomenon there is

2392
01:58:41,010 --> 01:58:38,989
something twisted going on what do you

2393
01:58:44,020 --> 01:58:41,020
think it's costing it in your opinion I

2394
01:58:47,320 --> 01:58:44,030
think I think CERN is a big possibility

2395
01:58:50,500 --> 01:58:47,330
but there's another I do believe that

2396
01:58:52,360 --> 01:58:50,510
because CERN is an experiment that they

2397
01:58:54,880 --> 01:58:52,370
don't know the end results they are

2398
01:58:57,280 --> 01:58:54,890
doing things out there willy-nilly right

2399
01:58:59,530 --> 01:58:57,290
let's just cut you know let's collide

2400
01:59:04,540 --> 01:58:59,540
these and see what happens there's that

2401
01:59:07,510 --> 01:59:04,550
but up in Silicon Valley with quantum

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01:59:09,430 --> 01:59:07,520
computers and the research that is going

2403
01:59:15,080 --> 01:59:09,440
on there now I'll send you some stuff

2404
01:59:16,700 --> 01:59:15,090
later the the company that has built the

2405
01:59:19,129 --> 01:59:16,710
quantum computer here in Southern

2406
01:59:20,720 --> 01:59:19,139
California USC there's another one up at

2407
01:59:24,979 --> 01:59:20,730
Google there's another one at Lawrence

2408
01:59:27,470 --> 01:59:24,989
Livermore 3 the the CEO of that company

2409
01:59:30,740 --> 01:59:27,480
did this big presentation and he goes

2410
01:59:32,330 --> 01:59:30,750
out last year's you remember a bunch of

2411
01:59:34,189 --> 01:59:32,340
these billionaires up in Silicon Valley

2412
01:59:36,080 --> 01:59:34,199
started talking about us living in the

2413
01:59:38,629 --> 01:59:36,090
matrix right that there is a possibility

2414
01:59:40,189 --> 01:59:38,639
this could be ones and zeroes and this

2415
01:59:43,040 --> 01:59:40,199
could be well the reason why they were

2416
01:59:46,040 --> 01:59:43,050
saying that is the way that quantum

2417
01:59:48,290 --> 01:59:46,050
computers work with a qubit instead of a

2418
01:59:54,200 --> 01:59:48,300
bit with a qubit is they are taking

2419
01:59:57,379 --> 01:59:54,210
advantage of the the state of the qubit

2420
01:59:59,870 --> 01:59:57,389
in another dimension parallel world

2421
02:00:02,330 --> 01:59:59,880
parallel world and when you get into

2422
02:00:06,140 --> 02:00:02,340
quantum theory and quantum mechanics the

2423
02:00:09,290 --> 02:00:06,150
multi worlds theory is part of that

2424
02:00:11,240 --> 02:00:09,300
theorem so but what they started to find

2425
02:00:13,160 --> 02:00:11,250
out the only way that they could get

2426
02:00:17,149 --> 02:00:13,170
these quantum computers to work was to

2427
02:00:19,970 --> 02:00:17,159
get these qubits - if you had instead of

2428
02:00:24,260 --> 02:00:19,980
having a million transistors on a chip

2429
02:00:28,070 --> 02:00:24,270
on a quantum computer there's 2,000

2430
02:00:31,609 --> 02:00:28,080
cubits not 10 or 20 million transistors

2431
02:00:34,520 --> 02:00:31,619
there's only 2,000 right now but they

2432
02:00:37,280 --> 02:00:34,530
take advantage of the quantum states of

2433
02:00:40,490 --> 02:00:37,290
these qubits in infinite worlds so now

2434
02:00:43,760 --> 02:00:40,500
you have infinite amounts of transistors

2435
02:00:45,770 --> 02:00:43,770
or possibilities on a chip they figure

2436
02:00:47,540 --> 02:00:45,780
that out in Silicon Valley and the only

2437
02:00:51,439 --> 02:00:47,550
way to answer to that with the straight

2438
02:00:55,160 --> 02:00:51,449
faces we have parallel worlds and it's

2439
02:00:57,020 --> 02:00:55,170
real and so now if if all of this is

2440
02:01:00,379 --> 02:00:57,030
starting to get proven on a scientific

2441
02:01:02,510 --> 02:01:00,389
level black and white out of Silicon

2442
02:01:05,180 --> 02:01:02,520
Valley with these engineers then

2443
02:01:07,100 --> 02:01:05,190
therefore these parallel worlds that are

2444
02:01:10,040 --> 02:01:07,110
next to you and I to our right and to

2445
02:01:14,000 --> 02:01:10,050
our left at an infinite amount that

2446
02:01:16,250 --> 02:01:14,010
possibly that we get a little next a

2447
02:01:19,399 --> 02:01:16,260
little a little convergence into this

2448
02:01:21,439 --> 02:01:19,409
world where we're starting to overlap a

2449
02:01:24,530 --> 02:01:21,449
little bit that's that's also a

2450
02:01:28,020 --> 02:01:24,540
possibility here could be time travel

2451
02:01:30,930 --> 02:01:28,030
too as well but the fact that Cup

2452
02:01:33,590 --> 02:01:30,940
noodles is is messing with my head says

2453
02:01:36,300 --> 02:01:33,600
to me it's off it's so many different

2454
02:01:38,940 --> 02:01:36,310
aspects of it that there is something

2455
02:01:42,050 --> 02:01:38,950
going on here I just don't know quite

2456
02:01:45,420 --> 02:01:42,060
what it is but the multi world parallel

2457
02:01:48,690 --> 02:01:45,430
possibility and it phasing in and out of

2458
02:01:51,570 --> 02:01:48,700
our own it could be part of it different

2459
02:01:55,320 --> 02:01:51,580
watch the series TV series French I've

2460
02:01:59,580 --> 02:01:55,330
watched every season all five seasons at

2461
02:02:01,470 --> 02:01:59,590
least five times that parallel world it

2462
02:02:03,780 --> 02:02:01,480
makes you wonder with all these new

2463
02:02:05,940 --> 02:02:03,790
x-files even you know some people have

2464
02:02:08,730 --> 02:02:05,950
said that the x-files some of the the

2465
02:02:11,280 --> 02:02:08,740
scripts were based on true stories that

2466
02:02:14,640 --> 02:02:11,290
are just simply fictionalized there's a

2467
02:02:18,510 --> 02:02:14,650
sea when it comes to something like

2468
02:02:21,330 --> 02:02:18,520
fringe and I hate to always go back and

2469
02:02:23,580 --> 02:02:21,340
compare Hollywood or TV series with with

2470
02:02:28,080 --> 02:02:23,590
these very important subjects but when

2471
02:02:30,630 --> 02:02:28,090
it comes to fringe it is so simple and

2472
02:02:34,260 --> 02:02:30,640
obvious that you it allows other people

2473
02:02:37,350 --> 02:02:34,270
outside of our communities right to see

2474
02:02:40,590 --> 02:02:37,360
that and go okay that's a possibility

2475
02:02:43,140 --> 02:02:40,600
I get that that's how well that that

2476
02:02:47,070 --> 02:02:43,150
show was done that show I think it's a

2477
02:02:50,220 --> 02:02:47,080
documentary and so that's my take fringe

2478
02:02:53,760 --> 02:02:50,230
is based on it's a documentary without

2479
02:02:56,400 --> 02:02:53,770
making light of it and and so let me

2480
02:02:59,190 --> 02:02:56,410
throw this back at you when when people

2481
02:03:02,190 --> 02:02:59,200
start to talk about things like Mandela

2482
02:03:03,930 --> 02:03:02,200
effect or parallel worlds what's the

2483
02:03:07,890 --> 02:03:03,940
best example that you would bring

2484
02:03:10,110 --> 02:03:07,900
forward that it is a reality when it

2485
02:03:12,540 --> 02:03:10,120
comes to the Mandela effect or parallel

2486
02:03:14,490 --> 02:03:12,550
worlds exactly all the same thing that

2487
02:03:18,330 --> 02:03:14,500
you were saying these quantum computers

2488
02:03:20,390 --> 02:03:18,340
and also you know what if at one point

2489
02:03:24,180 --> 02:03:20,400
in our history we were able to tap into

2490
02:03:27,390 --> 02:03:24,190
another parallel world technology or

2491
02:03:32,240 --> 02:03:27,400
wisdom or or knowledge and that's what

2492
02:03:34,770 --> 02:03:32,250
allowed us to incredibly you know expand

2493
02:03:37,110 --> 02:03:34,780
technologically even what we see at the

2494
02:03:39,720 --> 02:03:37,120
beginning of the last century the 20th

2495
02:03:41,460 --> 02:03:39,730
century the the amount of technology

2496
02:03:42,030 --> 02:03:41,470
that we see even right now I spoke to

2497
02:03:44,040 --> 02:03:42,040
another end of the

2498
02:03:46,890 --> 02:03:44,050
the other day who said that is it's no

2499
02:03:48,600 --> 02:03:46,900
longer every 18 months that we are

2500
02:03:50,940 --> 02:03:48,610
doubling our technologies happening much

2501
02:03:53,160 --> 02:03:50,950
much faster I mean look at I think it

2502
02:03:56,010 --> 02:03:53,170
was Google that had these two computers

2503
02:03:58,200 --> 02:03:56,020
that were teaching languages to each

2504
02:04:00,530 --> 02:03:58,210
other you know Korean to one Chinese to

2505
02:04:03,660 --> 02:04:00,540
another one and that they found a way to

2506
02:04:05,310 --> 02:04:03,670
to go around it without having to teach

2507
02:04:07,980 --> 02:04:05,320
themselves to that they taught

2508
02:04:10,800 --> 02:04:07,990
themselves a different language that we

2509
02:04:13,590 --> 02:04:10,810
cannot understand and they have to shut

2510
02:04:16,200 --> 02:04:13,600
him off last week so you know where is

2511
02:04:18,690 --> 02:04:16,210
all this exponential knowledge coming

2512
02:04:20,580 --> 02:04:18,700
from is it extraterrestrial is it

2513
02:04:23,100 --> 02:04:20,590
another puddle if we will go back to the

2514
02:04:25,740 --> 02:04:23,110
Flat Earth model where is it coming from

2515
02:04:27,210 --> 02:04:25,750
and the question is are we ever gonna

2516
02:04:29,040 --> 02:04:27,220
have this closer and I've had this

2517
02:04:30,930 --> 02:04:29,050
conversation and you have with Richard

2518
02:04:32,550 --> 02:04:30,940
Dolan and the rest of them right I don't

2519
02:04:34,680 --> 02:04:32,560
think it's in the best interest of the

2520
02:04:37,500 --> 02:04:34,690
powers that want to be too this close at

2521
02:04:40,050 --> 02:04:37,510
all we'll just we'll find out that we

2522
02:04:42,060 --> 02:04:40,060
have absolutely no way of defending

2523
02:04:44,550 --> 02:04:42,070
ourselves in the event that these

2524
02:04:45,870 --> 02:04:44,560
whether they're benign or maligne you

2525
02:04:48,960 --> 02:04:45,880
know you know in order to be able to

2526
02:04:50,610 --> 02:04:48,970
protect our populations from that so but

2527
02:04:52,350 --> 02:04:50,620
that's a different show well we got to

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02:04:55,680 --> 02:04:52,360
take a break when we come back we've got

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to do some et with Mel fàbregas Veritas

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radio this is Veritas on fade to black

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all right welcome back fade to black I'm

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your host Jimmy Church follow me on

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our guest tonight Mel fàbregas you can

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tonight Mel fàbregas this is a Veritas

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on fade to black now Mel out of all of

2632
02:09:47,729 --> 02:09:44,409
your interviews I don't think I have

2633
02:09:52,950 --> 02:09:47,739
ever heard you reference maybe you have

2634
02:09:54,750 --> 02:09:52,960
but your own personal UFO sighting or et

2635
02:09:56,790 --> 02:09:54,760
experience have you seen something in

2636
02:09:59,160 --> 02:09:56,800
the sky well you're leaving the best for

2637
02:10:02,149 --> 02:09:59,170
last aren't you that's right so you just

2638
02:10:06,600 --> 02:10:02,159
came back from East SETI I believe yep I

2639
02:10:09,330 --> 02:10:06,610
I never saw a UFO before I was always

2640
02:10:11,549 --> 02:10:09,340
interested in seeing one and did let me

2641
02:10:13,589 --> 02:10:11,559
just explain what happened for years

2642
02:10:15,779 --> 02:10:13,599
people were telling me you need to go to

2643
02:10:17,609 --> 02:10:15,789
the east city ranch as the Disney this

2644
02:10:20,580 --> 02:10:17,619
new land or this new world for

2645
02:10:22,500 --> 02:10:20,590
ufologists at first so in 2011 I was

2646
02:10:25,649 --> 02:10:22,510
invited to go up there and I'm thinking

2647
02:10:28,259 --> 02:10:25,659
okay I'm just gonna enjoy and in in the

2648
02:10:29,549 --> 02:10:28,269
camera hurry with people and sit down at

2649
02:10:32,129 --> 02:10:29,559
night to see what happens I had low

2650
02:10:33,810 --> 02:10:32,139
expectations because I don't want to be

2651
02:10:36,299 --> 02:10:33,820
surprised that I might not be able to

2652
02:10:37,469 --> 02:10:36,309
find something but I'm sitting with a

2653
02:10:42,779 --> 02:10:37,479
bunch of people they're just like you

2654
02:10:45,120 --> 02:10:42,789
were all of a sudden this light almost

2655
02:10:49,020 --> 02:10:45,130
pink it's just coming my way I have my

2656
02:10:51,239 --> 02:10:49,030
camcorder with me I just couldn't turn

2657
02:10:53,969 --> 02:10:51,249
it on because I said maybe if I turn it

2658
02:10:57,930 --> 02:10:53,979
on I'll lose the sighting and this thing

2659
02:11:01,529 --> 02:10:57,940
stood on top of me and it blew gold

2660
02:11:04,950 --> 02:11:01,539
almost as if saying here you go there's

2661
02:11:06,359 --> 02:11:04,960
some proof that we're here I don't know

2662
02:11:08,729 --> 02:11:06,369
if they're extraterrestrial I don't know

2663
02:11:11,000 --> 02:11:08,739
if they're the US military but I know

2664
02:11:13,259 --> 02:11:11,010
that whatever I saw is not conventional

2665
02:11:15,569 --> 02:11:13,269
thankfully there was a good friend of

2666
02:11:19,259 --> 02:11:15,579
ours John Kelly there who filmed that

2667
02:11:21,959 --> 02:11:19,269
and I have proof of that the second year

2668
02:11:24,540 --> 02:11:21,969
I go back to East SETI the first night

2669
02:11:27,270 --> 02:11:24,550
we're there you know at the at the house

2670
02:11:29,459 --> 02:11:27,280
I'm going to sleep early all of a sudden

2671
02:11:32,070 --> 02:11:29,469
it starts shaking shaking shaking the

2672
02:11:34,500 --> 02:11:32,080
whole place I go outside

2673
02:11:36,620 --> 02:11:34,510
there's a Chinook helicopter probably

2674
02:11:40,380 --> 02:11:36,630
about a hundred feet from our heads

2675
02:11:42,180 --> 02:11:40,390
red lights inside and I'm thinking why

2676
02:11:44,700 --> 02:11:42,190
would they be doing this to a civilian

2677
02:11:47,760 --> 02:11:44,710
area almost as if they're trying to find

2678
02:11:50,520 --> 02:11:47,770
you know signature oh you know a body's

2679
02:11:53,190 --> 02:11:50,530
signature from people who go there well

2680
02:11:55,140 --> 02:11:53,200
then the next day I see John Kelly in

2681
02:11:56,970 --> 02:11:55,150
the middle of the field he's looking at

2682
02:11:59,280 --> 02:11:56,980
Mount Adams I know you have a great

2683
02:12:01,430 --> 02:11:59,290
story about this hole that you found at

2684
02:12:05,250 --> 02:12:01,440
man Adams but we're there at night and

2685
02:12:07,560 --> 02:12:05,260
all of a sudden two lights in the middle

2686
02:12:11,040 --> 02:12:07,570
of the mountain just start moving around

2687
02:12:15,300 --> 02:12:11,050
and I'm just saying are these snow

2688
02:12:17,730 --> 02:12:15,310
mobiles right what have they right fast

2689
02:12:19,770 --> 02:12:17,740
forward to another year one of our

2690
02:12:22,020 --> 02:12:19,780
listeners from Switzerland all of a

2691
02:12:24,450 --> 02:12:22,030
sudden says hey I need to share with you

2692
02:12:26,970 --> 02:12:24,460
some information and this is the story

2693
02:12:29,190 --> 02:12:26,980
that I've never been able to really put

2694
02:12:31,020 --> 02:12:29,200
out there and show the images because

2695
02:12:32,850 --> 02:12:31,030
I'm not authorized I've showed him to a

2696
02:12:35,610 --> 02:12:32,860
few researchers if I ever see you gotta

2697
02:12:39,000 --> 02:12:35,620
come from cells shown to you but he said

2698
02:12:41,820 --> 02:12:39,010
luck back in the 80s a friend of mine in

2699
02:12:43,980 --> 02:12:41,830
Switzerland why is it home all of a

2700
02:12:47,640 --> 02:12:43,990
sudden the house starts vibrating and

2701
02:12:49,770 --> 02:12:47,650
the dog just goes outside such running

2702
02:12:52,200 --> 02:12:49,780
to the field and the guy starts chasing

2703
02:12:56,040 --> 02:12:52,210
the dog all of a sudden this these

2704
02:12:58,650 --> 02:12:56,050
lights start descending he starts

2705
02:13:01,260 --> 02:12:58,660
throwing stones pebbles at the the thing

2706
02:13:03,720 --> 02:13:01,270
and he can hear the metallic sound the

2707
02:13:06,840 --> 02:13:03,730
thing landed and these figurines come

2708
02:13:09,840 --> 02:13:06,850
outside almost like making figures with

2709
02:13:13,650 --> 02:13:09,850
light and he took a bunch of pictures of

2710
02:13:15,930 --> 02:13:13,660
that a few years later they gave him a

2711
02:13:16,710 --> 02:13:15,940
signal that they were gonna come back he

2712
02:13:19,680 --> 02:13:16,720
took his camera

2713
02:13:22,080 --> 02:13:19,690
they then another display of what they

2714
02:13:23,370 --> 02:13:22,090
could do they said hey we want you to

2715
02:13:25,980 --> 02:13:23,380
bring your car we want to show you

2716
02:13:28,590 --> 02:13:25,990
something you know I see all these

2717
02:13:33,330 --> 02:13:28,600
pictures but he opened the doors all of

2718
02:13:35,550 --> 02:13:33,340
a sudden these orbs these lights start

2719
02:13:38,070 --> 02:13:35,560
be materializing the car these pictures

2720
02:13:40,440 --> 02:13:38,080
are are basically from the old type of

2721
02:13:43,710 --> 02:13:40,450
cameras with rolls a friend of his at

2722
02:13:45,779 --> 02:13:43,720
the vision of making collar copies this

2723
02:13:47,790 --> 02:13:45,789
man who took the pictures

2724
02:13:50,790 --> 02:13:47,800
came to live in the United States went

2725
02:13:53,819 --> 02:13:50,800
to a conference 2006 or ten I don't

2726
02:13:56,009 --> 02:13:53,829
remember exactly but he went to a UFO

2727
02:13:58,200 --> 02:13:56,019
conference showed the pictures there's

2728
02:14:01,259 --> 02:13:58,210
the people he went back to his hotel

2729
02:14:04,620 --> 02:14:01,269
room and he said not even half an hour

2730
02:14:06,870 --> 02:14:04,630
later I had over ten people from the

2731
02:14:09,390 --> 02:14:06,880
government here knocking it on the door

2732
02:14:11,370 --> 02:14:09,400
and asking me for the camera the

2733
02:14:13,500 --> 02:14:11,380
originals the negatives and everything

2734
02:14:16,500 --> 02:14:13,510
and they said don't ever show those

2735
02:14:18,509 --> 02:14:16,510
pictures again what did you see well I

2736
02:14:22,950 --> 02:14:18,519
have the pictures basically they're orbs

2737
02:14:26,700 --> 02:14:22,960
they're their lights one next to each

2738
02:14:29,339 --> 02:14:26,710
other making figurines you know on the

2739
02:14:33,450 --> 02:14:29,349
road in Switzerland they materialized in

2740
02:14:36,509 --> 02:14:33,460
a car now fast forward to 2011 now I'm

2741
02:14:39,180 --> 02:14:36,519
at a International UFO Congress and I

2742
02:14:41,879 --> 02:14:39,190
got a phone call that the actual witness

2743
02:14:44,339 --> 02:14:41,889
was in Arizona and they wanted to come

2744
02:14:46,669 --> 02:14:44,349
meet with me he came and met with me and

2745
02:14:50,189 --> 02:14:46,679
showed me pictures of the same orbs

2746
02:14:52,169 --> 02:14:50,199
visiting him here in the United States

2747
02:14:54,600 --> 02:14:52,179
he moved to the United States and the

2748
02:14:57,689 --> 02:14:54,610
ORS are showing all these things that

2749
02:14:59,930 --> 02:14:57,699
they do at his house and I'm asking him

2750
02:15:03,299 --> 02:14:59,940
what is this all about who are they and

2751
02:15:07,020 --> 02:15:03,309
his conclusion is that these are time

2752
02:15:09,810 --> 02:15:07,030
travelers apparently they're coming here

2753
02:15:12,419 --> 02:15:09,820
to to look at us apparently we are

2754
02:15:15,330 --> 02:15:12,429
living in a time bubble where we're

2755
02:15:17,430 --> 02:15:15,340
almost in a prison planet and it's gonna

2756
02:15:20,310 --> 02:15:17,440
be a failures down the road that we're

2757
02:15:23,850 --> 02:15:20,320
able to disconnect ourselves from this

2758
02:15:25,649 --> 02:15:23,860
so-called matrix and interact with call

2759
02:15:28,919 --> 02:15:25,659
it a galactic Brotherhood if you will

2760
02:15:30,569 --> 02:15:28,929
but these are you know time travelers go

2761
02:15:33,060 --> 02:15:30,579
into the past go into the future and

2762
02:15:37,529 --> 02:15:33,070
that's what they are and one of the

2763
02:15:40,140 --> 02:15:37,539
images one person one human human person

2764
02:15:42,870 --> 02:15:40,150
they came from the future came to visit

2765
02:15:44,850 --> 02:15:42,880
him and said do not take a picture of me

2766
02:15:47,279 --> 02:15:44,860
but he actually took a picture of a

2767
02:15:49,950 --> 02:15:47,289
mirror you can actually see the uniform

2768
02:15:53,220 --> 02:15:49,960
and the technology he was using he had

2769
02:15:55,919 --> 02:15:53,230
this little metal right rectangle that

2770
02:15:57,649 --> 02:15:55,929
was showing the moon right there in his

2771
02:15:59,549 --> 02:15:57,659
living room I mean it's just incredible

2772
02:16:01,229 --> 02:15:59,559
images and this guy

2773
02:16:03,149 --> 02:16:01,239
does not want to come out because his

2774
02:16:05,809 --> 02:16:03,159
wife doesn't even know about it he

2775
02:16:08,309 --> 02:16:05,819
doesn't have a book so the question is

2776
02:16:11,639 --> 02:16:08,319
why would he be lying about this and the

2777
02:16:13,859 --> 02:16:11,649
pictures seem so so convincing I hope

2778
02:16:15,809 --> 02:16:13,869
that one day he authorised me both Rises

2779
02:16:23,009 --> 02:16:15,819
me to release them and just tell the

2780
02:16:25,319 --> 02:16:23,019
story Wow when it comes to orbs and you

2781
02:16:26,999 --> 02:16:25,329
know of course Cory good you know talks

2782
02:16:29,869 --> 02:16:27,009
about the sphere being alliance and

2783
02:16:34,469 --> 02:16:29,879
these these blue spheres these blue orbs

2784
02:16:35,879 --> 02:16:34,479
up at East SETI I had wealth it was all

2785
02:16:37,439 --> 02:16:35,889
of us that's one of the great things

2786
02:16:38,969 --> 02:16:37,449
about Issa do you know that you're gonna

2787
02:16:40,889 --> 02:16:38,979
have another one hundred hundred fifty

2788
02:16:44,399 --> 02:16:40,899
people around you witnessing you have

2789
02:16:46,649 --> 02:16:44,409
backup right absolutely and so I'm

2790
02:16:49,339 --> 02:16:46,659
sitting in this chair it's in the video

2791
02:16:52,469 --> 02:16:49,349
and it but and I talked about it briefly

2792
02:16:54,719 --> 02:16:52,479
but it's about eleven o'clock at night

2793
02:16:56,759 --> 02:16:54,729
and I'm sitting all the way to the right

2794
02:16:59,189 --> 02:16:56,769
at the end of everybody and I'm looking

2795
02:17:02,729 --> 02:16:59,199
out across Skywatch field I don't have

2796
02:17:05,819 --> 02:17:02,739
any binoculars it's just my eyes and I

2797
02:17:07,620 --> 02:17:05,829
see in in the moonlight at the backside

2798
02:17:12,269 --> 02:17:07,630
of the field you know which is probably

2799
02:17:14,609 --> 02:17:12,279
a quarter mile or more away come out

2800
02:17:17,069 --> 02:17:14,619
from behind the trees this grey or it

2801
02:17:19,769 --> 02:17:17,079
lasted melt for about five seconds that

2802
02:17:22,349 --> 02:17:19,779
was it but it was a little grey dot and

2803
02:17:24,330 --> 02:17:22,359
it swoops around from behind the trees

2804
02:17:26,279 --> 02:17:24,340
and gets bigger and bigger and bigger

2805
02:17:28,979 --> 02:17:26,289
and then stops at the end of the field

2806
02:17:32,250 --> 02:17:28,989
and now I'm guessing that this thing was

2807
02:17:35,370 --> 02:17:32,260
about fifty feet in diameter but it's

2808
02:17:37,859 --> 02:17:35,380
two dimensional right it's like an old

2809
02:17:39,689 --> 02:17:37,869
video game it's flat it's like there are

2810
02:17:41,910 --> 02:17:39,699
the orbs that you see in photographs

2811
02:17:44,160 --> 02:17:41,920
right it's not a three-d it's 2d and

2812
02:17:48,450 --> 02:17:44,170
it's kind of smudged around the edges

2813
02:17:51,000 --> 02:17:48,460
and then it just fades away now I rub my

2814
02:17:52,830 --> 02:17:51,010
eyes right thinking oh I've got you know

2815
02:17:54,509 --> 02:17:52,840
something a floating in my eye that was

2816
02:17:56,700 --> 02:17:54,519
kind of weird right okay and I'm rubbing

2817
02:17:59,490 --> 02:17:56,710
my eyes and as I do that this lady

2818
02:18:04,049 --> 02:17:59,500
behind me says there's anybody watching

2819
02:18:05,939 --> 02:18:04,059
that gray or about there and I spin

2820
02:18:10,009 --> 02:18:05,949
around and I said do you mean that was

2821
02:18:13,349 --> 02:18:10,019
real holy crap you know and and now

2822
02:18:16,679 --> 02:18:13,359
before anybody can tell me that

2823
02:18:19,950 --> 02:18:16,689
you know I'm crazy remember Matt no it

2824
02:18:22,799 --> 02:18:19,960
was as real as anything now what it was

2825
02:18:26,219 --> 02:18:22,809
I can't explain I don't know but I

2826
02:18:28,889 --> 02:18:26,229
wasn't the only one to see it now that

2827
02:18:31,110 --> 02:18:28,899
the science needs to get behind this I

2828
02:18:33,179 --> 02:18:31,120
don't know why they don't but what is it

2829
02:18:36,059 --> 02:18:33,189
that we are seeing is it something from

2830
02:18:38,700 --> 02:18:36,069
the future is it interdimensional is it

2831
02:18:39,809 --> 02:18:38,710
some life force here that we that is

2832
02:18:41,639 --> 02:18:39,819
around us all the time that we just

2833
02:18:47,459 --> 02:18:41,649
don't know about is it some kind of

2834
02:18:48,450 --> 02:18:47,469
animal is it is it is it ET you know I I

2835
02:18:50,459 --> 02:18:48,460
don't know

2836
02:18:52,259 --> 02:18:50,469
I know those orcs are you referring to

2837
02:18:53,940 --> 02:18:52,269
that once I saw it he said they were too

2838
02:18:56,969 --> 02:18:53,950
kind of like the grayish looking once

2839
02:18:59,940 --> 02:18:56,979
and I had a laser pointer and they were

2840
02:19:01,610 --> 02:18:59,950
actually following it intelligently but

2841
02:19:04,669 --> 02:19:01,620
those are not the orbs that this man

2842
02:19:07,080 --> 02:19:04,679
photographed that these are big massive

2843
02:19:08,969 --> 02:19:07,090
some are yellow some are orange some are

2844
02:19:10,440 --> 02:19:08,979
blue but I'm gonna tell you another

2845
02:19:13,020 --> 02:19:10,450
story if you'd like to hear it that's

2846
02:19:15,629 --> 02:19:13,030
happened to me at East SETI the last

2847
02:19:18,839 --> 02:19:15,639
time I went there years ago 2012 thing

2848
02:19:20,459 --> 02:19:18,849
it was James in the end he wanted to do

2849
02:19:22,860 --> 02:19:20,469
a clearing with me I don't know if he

2850
02:19:24,389 --> 02:19:22,870
had a chance to do that with him but he

2851
02:19:26,700 --> 02:19:24,399
said by the way you have a spirit guide

2852
02:19:27,059 --> 02:19:26,710
her name is Nadia and whenever you need

2853
02:19:29,370 --> 02:19:27,069
to

2854
02:19:31,349 --> 02:19:29,380
you know assistance you call her and I

2855
02:19:34,200 --> 02:19:31,359
thought okay you know whatever you know

2856
02:19:36,660 --> 02:19:34,210
I'm open-minded so a few months later I

2857
02:19:38,669 --> 02:19:36,670
go to a conference in Sedona and at

2858
02:19:42,690 --> 02:19:38,679
night some of the people invited me to a

2859
02:19:45,089 --> 02:19:42,700
Kim Carlsberg call Carlsberg house for a

2860
02:19:47,190 --> 02:19:45,099
game it was like a game of Monopoly but

2861
02:19:50,160 --> 02:19:47,200
it's almost like Ouija you know you

2862
02:19:52,099 --> 02:19:50,170
basically call spirit guides and so on

2863
02:19:54,750 --> 02:19:52,109
so when it's my chance

2864
02:19:56,580 --> 02:19:54,760
somebody said I've never mentioned this

2865
02:19:58,410 --> 02:19:56,590
to anyone by the way only James and I

2866
02:20:05,639 --> 02:19:58,420
knew they said Oh

2867
02:20:06,360 --> 02:20:05,649
net here is here no no remember I'm a

2868
02:20:08,880 --> 02:20:06,370
skeptic

2869
02:20:10,559 --> 02:20:08,890
first and foremost right but I said okay

2870
02:20:13,590 --> 02:20:10,569
I'm gonna remove my hands from the board

2871
02:20:15,389 --> 02:20:13,600
because I don't want to you know make

2872
02:20:18,210 --> 02:20:15,399
any interferes with what's gonna happen

2873
02:20:22,800 --> 02:20:18,220
here I said okay not here you're here

2874
02:20:25,889 --> 02:20:22,810
and I said do you remember where you we

2875
02:20:26,850 --> 02:20:25,899
met and then the person who's scribing

2876
02:20:29,791 --> 02:20:26,860
and they

2877
02:20:32,310 --> 02:20:29,801
the person says yes we met at the II

2878
02:20:32,761 --> 02:20:32,320
said II Stargate and I'm thinking my

2879
02:20:34,680 --> 02:20:32,771
goodness

2880
02:20:36,331 --> 02:20:34,690
I had to go james gilliland and tell him

2881
02:20:39,350 --> 02:20:36,341
the story because nobody knew but me

2882
02:20:42,001 --> 02:20:39,360
right so how do you explain these things

2883
02:20:46,291 --> 02:20:42,011
scientifically without sounding crazy

2884
02:20:48,780 --> 02:20:46,301
you can't and see I really I really

2885
02:20:51,841 --> 02:20:48,790
believe that these experiences like this

2886
02:20:54,631 --> 02:20:51,851
coming from you or coming from me if we

2887
02:20:57,841 --> 02:20:54,641
share you know these things that happen

2888
02:20:59,881 --> 02:20:57,851
to us publicly then everybody else will

2889
02:21:01,890 --> 02:20:59,891
open up and say you know what I've had

2890
02:21:03,390 --> 02:21:01,900
the exact I'm glad you're talk because

2891
02:21:06,360 --> 02:21:03,400
I've never talked about it before and

2892
02:21:08,761 --> 02:21:06,370
and now I feel like I can and I think

2893
02:21:10,320 --> 02:21:08,771
that's what's really important I've

2894
02:21:12,150 --> 02:21:10,330
always looked at you as being very

2895
02:21:13,620 --> 02:21:12,160
pragmatic but you know the audience

2896
02:21:15,331 --> 02:21:13,630
right now it's probably thought the same

2897
02:21:18,751 --> 02:21:15,341
thing now they're good and you know what

2898
02:21:21,841 --> 02:21:18,761
actually Mel's pretty cool Mel's pretty

2899
02:21:22,831 --> 02:21:21,851
cool I wanted to ask you and thank you

2900
02:21:26,430 --> 02:21:22,841
for sharing that

2901
02:21:28,740 --> 02:21:26,440
I am I you know talking about orbs or

2902
02:21:30,751 --> 02:21:28,750
fairies or things you know you know I

2903
02:21:33,331 --> 02:21:30,761
don't care anymore Mel I just don't know

2904
02:21:34,680 --> 02:21:33,341
it doesn't bother me um oh I wanted to

2905
02:21:37,140 --> 02:21:34,690
ask you I'm gonna do this publicly

2906
02:21:38,970 --> 02:21:37,150
really quick I don't think I don't think

2907
02:21:41,190 --> 02:21:38,980
you've ever done coast to coast have you

2908
02:21:43,291 --> 02:21:41,200
no I have not you want to haven't had

2909
02:21:46,591 --> 02:21:43,301
that privileged okay well you want to do

2910
02:21:51,001 --> 02:21:46,601
it maybe this weekend when this weekend

2911
02:21:52,320 --> 02:21:51,011
like Saturday Saturday okay okay check

2912
02:21:55,921 --> 02:21:52,330
your books I'll talk to you about it

2913
02:21:57,930 --> 02:21:55,931
tomorrow and I'll see if I could make

2914
02:22:00,030 --> 02:21:57,940
that happen for you and we'll well like

2915
02:22:06,600 --> 02:22:00,040
continue this conversation over on

2916
02:22:08,490 --> 02:22:06,610
coasts this Saturday this thing that has

2917
02:22:10,980 --> 02:22:08,500
been going on over the last couple of

2918
02:22:13,051 --> 02:22:10,990
years with because you brought up

2919
02:22:16,740 --> 02:22:13,061
disclosure earlier but we have been

2920
02:22:19,530 --> 02:22:16,750
getting you followed the news the this

2921
02:22:22,400 --> 02:22:19,540
this thing on a weekly basis about

2922
02:22:25,831 --> 02:22:22,410
exoplanets or fast radio bursts or laser

2923
02:22:29,940 --> 02:22:25,841
you have a lien megastructures life on

2924
02:22:34,610 --> 02:22:29,950
Europa it's it's like every single week

2925
02:22:38,671 --> 02:22:34,620
now that this constant quest for alien

2926
02:22:39,840 --> 02:22:38,681
the search for alien or et contact is is

2927
02:22:42,300 --> 02:22:39,850
talked about

2928
02:22:47,010 --> 02:22:42,310
and what what do you think is actually

2929
02:22:48,359 --> 02:22:47,020
going on with that I think I think I

2930
02:22:50,519 --> 02:22:48,369
remembered this conversation that I had

2931
02:22:53,729 --> 02:22:50,529
with Nick Pope many years ago and he

2932
02:22:56,969 --> 02:22:53,739
told me that there would be a slow drip

2933
02:22:59,040 --> 02:22:56,979
process and that slow drip that little

2934
02:23:02,670 --> 02:22:59,050
drop would be go faster and faster and

2935
02:23:05,489 --> 02:23:02,680
faster and me personally I don't want to

2936
02:23:07,979 --> 02:23:05,499
offend anybody but personally when I

2937
02:23:10,439 --> 02:23:07,989
hear the word disclosure coming from a

2938
02:23:12,869 --> 02:23:10,449
government entity I would not believe it

2939
02:23:14,790 --> 02:23:12,879
for a minute I think if this closure

2940
02:23:16,229 --> 02:23:14,800
ever occurs it's gonna be at a

2941
02:23:19,019 --> 02:23:16,239
grassroots level it's gonna be Jimmy

2942
02:23:20,909 --> 02:23:19,029
Church or mail or somebody else who has

2943
02:23:22,319 --> 02:23:20,919
some people who are providing evidence

2944
02:23:25,679 --> 02:23:22,329
that this is happening if we don't get

2945
02:23:27,359 --> 02:23:25,689
killed first of course right but you

2946
02:23:29,250 --> 02:23:27,369
know the fact that we want to go to Mars

2947
02:23:31,260 --> 02:23:29,260
and we don't want to go to the moon

2948
02:23:33,840 --> 02:23:31,270
first we don't want to have an outpost

2949
02:23:36,750 --> 02:23:33,850
at the moon first and we're thinking

2950
02:23:38,210 --> 02:23:36,760
about these other planets you know it's

2951
02:23:41,579 --> 02:23:38,220
important that for the

2952
02:23:45,090 --> 02:23:41,589
military-industrial prison intelligence

2953
02:23:48,389 --> 02:23:45,100
complex to continue their work and if

2954
02:23:50,609 --> 02:23:48,399
wars are no longer effective and people

2955
02:23:53,159 --> 02:23:50,619
are waking up to the fact that most wars

2956
02:23:56,099 --> 02:23:53,169
are because of you know contrived

2957
02:23:58,920 --> 02:23:56,109
religion extremism financial you know

2958
02:24:02,639 --> 02:23:58,930
working on both sides what a better way

2959
02:24:07,109 --> 02:24:02,649
to do this but to bring an exterior an

2960
02:24:09,689 --> 02:24:07,119
EXO threat just like reagan said you

2961
02:24:11,069 --> 02:24:09,699
know i wonder how things would be if we

2962
02:24:13,529 --> 02:24:11,079
were facing an alien threat from outside

2963
02:24:16,469 --> 02:24:13,539
of this world and we could unite the

2964
02:24:19,290 --> 02:24:16,479
entire planet i think that is the next

2965
02:24:22,349 --> 02:24:19,300
step as Carol Rusin said according to

2966
02:24:24,960 --> 02:24:22,359
what Gordon to Vernon from Braun told

2967
02:24:27,059 --> 02:24:24,970
her that the last card would be an

2968
02:24:29,369 --> 02:24:27,069
extraterrestrial invasion first it's

2969
02:24:31,619 --> 02:24:29,379
going to be the Cold War then it's going

2970
02:24:34,649 --> 02:24:31,629
to be terrorism the boogeyman

2971
02:24:37,229 --> 02:24:34,659
then it's going to be a an EXO object an

2972
02:24:39,329 --> 02:24:37,239
asteroid a meteor or something else but

2973
02:24:41,279 --> 02:24:39,339
the final card would be the

2974
02:24:43,079 --> 02:24:41,289
extra-terrestrial innovation and when it

2975
02:24:44,849 --> 02:24:43,089
happens don't believe it for a minute

2976
02:24:46,889 --> 02:24:44,859
but then you hear NASA all that I'm

2977
02:24:49,319 --> 02:24:46,899
saying that we have found earth-like

2978
02:24:51,840 --> 02:24:49,329
planets in the Goldilocks zone of

2979
02:24:53,399 --> 02:24:51,850
several sons it makes you wonder if

2980
02:24:53,849 --> 02:24:53,409
they're preparing people and all these

2981
02:24:55,469 --> 02:24:53,859
move

2982
02:24:57,570 --> 02:24:55,479
that are coming out of me lucky

2983
02:24:59,670 --> 02:24:57,580
September 22nd I believe close

2984
02:25:02,550 --> 02:24:59,680
encounters of the third kind is coming

2985
02:25:03,870 --> 02:25:02,560
back for K so all these movies coming

2986
02:25:06,660 --> 02:25:03,880
out again almost like if they're

2987
02:25:08,340 --> 02:25:06,670
planting a seed of something else to

2988
02:25:08,700 --> 02:25:08,350
come whether that's gonna be the case or

2989
02:25:11,400 --> 02:25:08,710
not

2990
02:25:13,410 --> 02:25:11,410
I don't know but please people when you

2991
02:25:16,230 --> 02:25:13,420
hear the government saying we are

2992
02:25:18,030 --> 02:25:16,240
confirming that we have been in contact

2993
02:25:19,860 --> 02:25:18,040
with extraterrestrial presence for years

2994
02:25:23,940 --> 02:25:19,870
I don't know if they'll believe it to me

2995
02:25:26,730 --> 02:25:23,950
well and with with all of your

2996
02:25:29,420 --> 02:25:26,740
interviews and and your friends and and

2997
02:25:33,929 --> 02:25:29,430
the knowledge that you have collected

2998
02:25:37,170 --> 02:25:33,939
how much do you think the the world

2999
02:25:39,660 --> 02:25:37,180
governments actually do know do you feel

3000
02:25:41,550 --> 02:25:39,670
that they have made contact and are

3001
02:25:44,849 --> 02:25:41,560
continuing contact and are holding that

3002
02:25:46,740 --> 02:25:44,859
knowledge from us the opposite of they

3003
02:25:50,370 --> 02:25:46,750
know that that were not alone in the

3004
02:25:53,520 --> 02:25:50,380
universe I'm talking about from Roswell

3005
02:25:56,219 --> 02:25:53,530
forward that that you know that there is

3006
02:25:58,380 --> 02:25:56,229
bodies being held somewhere we we have a

3007
02:26:01,530 --> 02:25:58,390
treaty we have communication we're

3008
02:26:03,840 --> 02:26:01,540
sharing technology what do you think is

3009
02:26:05,250 --> 02:26:03,850
actually going on let me unpack that

3010
02:26:07,889 --> 02:26:05,260
that was a multi-pronged question I

3011
02:26:10,230 --> 02:26:07,899
think I believe that governments know

3012
02:26:12,330 --> 02:26:10,240
about this especially the biggest hammer

3013
02:26:16,440 --> 02:26:12,340
in the world which is the United States

3014
02:26:17,790 --> 02:26:16,450
I think definitely we know and when we

3015
02:26:19,230 --> 02:26:17,800
have all these people talking about

3016
02:26:21,599 --> 02:26:19,240
extraterrestrials and the government

3017
02:26:23,700 --> 02:26:21,609
really kill them or fictionalize them

3018
02:26:25,650 --> 02:26:23,710
it's because they don't want people to

3019
02:26:27,929 --> 02:26:25,660
know that there's a reality behind the

3020
02:26:30,510 --> 02:26:27,939
scenes that's interacting with us here I

3021
02:26:32,910 --> 02:26:30,520
remember years ago when I started this

3022
02:26:35,580 --> 02:26:32,920
program you remember the lights that

3023
02:26:38,130 --> 02:26:35,590
were that were seen by the mexican air

3024
02:26:40,080 --> 02:26:38,140
force in the Bay of Campeche in Mexico

3025
02:26:43,559 --> 02:26:40,090
that's right and they were told later

3026
02:26:46,290 --> 02:26:43,569
all those are oil platforms well I went

3027
02:26:48,960 --> 02:26:46,300
to the Ministry of Defense in in Mexico

3028
02:26:52,920 --> 02:26:48,970
and actually got an interview scheduled

3029
02:26:55,380 --> 02:26:52,930
with the Deputy Assistant Secretary of

3030
02:26:57,540 --> 02:26:55,390
Defense a brigadier general and he

3031
02:27:00,510 --> 02:26:57,550
canceled five minutes before the

3032
02:27:04,400 --> 02:27:00,520
interview but he did send me a letter in

3033
02:27:07,390 --> 02:27:04,410
which he said we cannot confirm or deny

3034
02:27:08,921 --> 02:27:07,400
what we saw that day

3035
02:27:10,690 --> 02:27:08,931
and I think it's because if number one

3036
02:27:12,900 --> 02:27:10,700
they cancelled the interview because the

3037
02:27:16,240 --> 02:27:12,910
United States probably said do not talk

3038
02:27:18,791 --> 02:27:16,250
why would he be saying we cannot confirm

3039
02:27:20,711 --> 02:27:18,801
or deny why couldn't he say yet they

3040
02:27:22,150 --> 02:27:20,721
were confirmed to be all platforms I

3041
02:27:23,831 --> 02:27:22,160
think the United States has the

3042
02:27:27,220 --> 02:27:23,841
influence in every country out there

3043
02:27:30,131 --> 02:27:27,230
perhaps we have exotic technology that

3044
02:27:31,331 --> 02:27:30,141
if anybody decides to talk we can create

3045
02:27:33,310 --> 02:27:31,341
an earthquake look what happened in

3046
02:27:35,650 --> 02:27:33,320
Haiti look what happened these two in

3047
02:27:40,301 --> 02:27:35,660
the last two months with the u.s. Navy

3048
02:27:43,331 --> 02:27:40,311
ships twice it's some merchant ship or

3049
02:27:45,520 --> 02:27:43,341
or or oil tanker has been just disabling

3050
02:27:48,581 --> 02:27:45,530
but this is what it looks like disabling

3051
02:27:50,621 --> 02:27:48,591
our technology making the the vessel

3052
02:27:52,780 --> 02:27:50,631
inoperable to the point that they come

3053
02:27:55,001 --> 02:27:52,790
back they disabled they come back and

3054
02:27:58,871 --> 02:27:55,011
they ram into it wanting to sink it

3055
02:28:00,761 --> 02:27:58,881
almost as if Sayed Russia China what

3056
02:28:03,190 --> 02:28:00,771
other country they don't want the United

3057
02:28:04,841 --> 02:28:03,200
States to start another war almost as if

3058
02:28:06,700 --> 02:28:04,851
saying look what we can do with one of

3059
02:28:08,680 --> 02:28:06,710
your vessels we can do the same thing

3060
02:28:12,730 --> 02:28:08,690
with all your fleets so don't even start

3061
02:28:16,570 --> 02:28:12,740
again we don't know how to drive a boat

3062
02:28:19,180 --> 02:28:16,580
yeah exactly how does that start

3063
02:28:21,700 --> 02:28:19,190
happening I'm totally with you on that

3064
02:28:24,341 --> 02:28:21,710
it that is about as perplexing as

3065
02:28:25,990 --> 02:28:24,351
anything oh oh oh I wanted that okay you

3066
02:28:27,371 --> 02:28:26,000
know what can I keep you for another ten

3067
02:28:29,020 --> 02:28:27,381
minutes after the next break

3068
02:28:31,961 --> 02:28:29,030
sure okay because we have two other

3069
02:28:34,091 --> 02:28:31,971
subjects I want to get to and one of

3070
02:28:36,251 --> 02:28:34,101
those was Apollo I don't want that to

3071
02:28:40,961 --> 02:28:36,261
get away from us but before this next

3072
02:28:44,110 --> 02:28:40,971
break the the this Nazca mommy that Gaia

3073
02:28:45,610 --> 02:28:44,120
has brought out I know that you've seen

3074
02:28:51,060 --> 02:28:45,620
the videos and you've looked at these

3075
02:28:56,831 --> 02:28:51,070
images and the MRIs and the radar radar

3076
02:28:59,220 --> 02:28:56,841
the the x-rays but what are your

3077
02:29:01,301 --> 02:28:59,230
eyeballs telling you what's your gut I

3078
02:29:05,230 --> 02:29:01,311
love my friend Jay whiner

3079
02:29:08,020 --> 02:29:05,240
I would say no comment yeah man I just

3080
02:29:13,270 --> 02:29:08,030
spent the weekend with Jay Wright this

3081
02:29:15,671 --> 02:29:13,280
past weekend okay and he's a really good

3082
02:29:17,921 --> 02:29:15,681
friend and I'm with you on this but my

3083
02:29:20,600 --> 02:29:17,931
eyes say this is really good eye candy

3084
02:29:23,770 --> 02:29:20,610
it's too good to be true

3085
02:29:27,280 --> 02:29:23,780
too good to be true but what if right so

3086
02:29:31,011 --> 02:29:27,290
you know until we get the DNA stuff back

3087
02:29:35,690 --> 02:29:31,021
but so again but let me ask you I mean

3088
02:29:37,360 --> 02:29:35,700
what are your eyeballs say I hope J is

3089
02:29:38,570 --> 02:29:37,370
not listening but I think it's a fake

3090
02:29:42,530 --> 02:29:38,580
okay

3091
02:29:44,810 --> 02:29:42,540
and again I don't have all the proof but

3092
02:29:46,551 --> 02:29:44,820
unfortunately I know Jaime Mao son is

3093
02:29:49,220 --> 02:29:46,561
involved too and we've seen some of the

3094
02:29:52,791 --> 02:29:49,230
things that he has come up you know in

3095
02:29:55,551 --> 02:29:52,801
the past and I just don't don't see it I

3096
02:29:58,011 --> 02:29:55,561
think that this is something that's

3097
02:29:59,150 --> 02:29:58,021
being sensationalized I don't see it I

3098
02:30:02,331 --> 02:29:59,160
don't see it being true at all

3099
02:30:06,530 --> 02:30:02,341
yeah and that this is where I we get

3100
02:30:08,150 --> 02:30:06,540
into a very weird paradox for me and you

3101
02:30:09,980 --> 02:30:08,160
said some of the things that Jaime

3102
02:30:11,660 --> 02:30:09,990
Masson has been involved with no I'll

3103
02:30:13,791 --> 02:30:11,670
take that a step further all of the

3104
02:30:16,011 --> 02:30:13,801
things that he's been involved with I

3105
02:30:20,541 --> 02:30:16,021
was just being nice yeah yes so that

3106
02:30:25,610 --> 02:30:20,551
being said gyein knows that too right

3107
02:30:28,850 --> 02:30:25,620
they know that so why jeopardize your

3108
02:30:30,921 --> 02:30:28,860
reputation unless there's something else

3109
02:30:34,490 --> 02:30:30,931
to it that you're willing to take the

3110
02:30:37,100 --> 02:30:34,500
risk of having the Jaime Masson baggage

3111
02:30:38,450 --> 02:30:37,110
come along with it that's a clean you

3112
02:30:41,541 --> 02:30:38,460
know that's where I kind of tripped a

3113
02:30:45,200 --> 02:30:41,551
little bit also J is one of the smartest

3114
02:30:48,171 --> 02:30:45,210
guys that I know yeah you know and he he

3115
02:30:51,860 --> 02:30:48,181
has you know he has had his rough roads

3116
02:30:55,640 --> 02:30:51,870
in the past why go down this voluntarily

3117
02:30:58,070 --> 02:30:55,650
if you know that that that it's a hoax

3118
02:31:00,560 --> 02:30:58,080
and these were manufactured you know

3119
02:31:02,631 --> 02:31:00,570
that's where the paradox for me kicks

3120
02:31:03,831 --> 02:31:02,641
into gear it's like you're damned if you

3121
02:31:06,980 --> 02:31:03,841
do damned if you don't

3122
02:31:08,780 --> 02:31:06,990
and you need to you need to kind of look

3123
02:31:10,970 --> 02:31:08,790
at it that's not you know I mean

3124
02:31:14,001 --> 02:31:10,980
everybody kind of ask yourself that same

3125
02:31:16,190 --> 02:31:14,011
question we you know if the Jaime Masson

3126
02:31:18,320 --> 02:31:16,200
you know name comes up and ever well

3127
02:31:22,100 --> 02:31:18,330
it's Jaime so that well you know what

3128
02:31:25,280 --> 02:31:22,110
guy is not that dumb they know that they

3129
02:31:28,791 --> 02:31:25,290
know what is what everybody is going to

3130
02:31:31,180 --> 02:31:28,801
say you know one thing that I know you

3131
02:31:33,711 --> 02:31:31,190
wouldn't do and I wouldn't do i wouldn't

3132
02:31:36,501 --> 02:31:33,721
sensationalize something too

3133
02:31:39,291 --> 02:31:36,511
subscribers and I hate to say but this

3134
02:31:42,171 --> 02:31:39,301
could be why Gaia is doing it what sure

3135
02:31:46,881 --> 02:31:42,181
did is this cells that's the obvious

3136
02:31:49,610 --> 02:31:46,891
thing when you have I remember in three

3137
02:31:51,740 --> 02:31:49,620
days when the story broken like

3138
02:31:55,011 --> 02:31:51,750
Wednesday and we broke it here and was

3139
02:31:57,591 --> 02:31:55,021
you know by the time Friday rolled

3140
02:32:01,911 --> 02:31:57,601
around I had J on coast with me that

3141
02:32:04,671 --> 02:32:01,921
night and they had clocked up like 50

3142
02:32:07,850 --> 02:32:04,681
million views in like two and a half

3143
02:32:12,041 --> 02:32:07,860
days think about that is a crazy amount

3144
02:32:14,841 --> 02:32:12,051
of exposure so could this be subscribe

3145
02:32:17,810 --> 02:32:14,851
subscriber driven could this be a money

3146
02:32:19,970 --> 02:32:17,820
play well money everybody has their

3147
02:32:22,551 --> 02:32:19,980
price no there's no question about that

3148
02:32:25,190 --> 02:32:22,561
but when it comes to reputation in this

3149
02:32:27,230 --> 02:32:25,200
community that's the last thing that we

3150
02:32:30,740 --> 02:32:27,240
need is another black eye and I just

3151
02:32:33,200 --> 02:32:30,750
don't see J voluntarily no matter what

3152
02:32:36,470 --> 02:32:33,210
kind of money is involved to do such a

3153
02:32:39,770 --> 02:32:36,480
thing so that that's my I'm torn I you

3154
02:32:42,921 --> 02:32:39,780
know I'm torn in both directions I'm

3155
02:32:44,360 --> 02:32:42,931
torn as well but again we cannot throw

3156
02:32:46,610 --> 02:32:44,370
the baby out with the bathwater they

3157
02:32:48,711 --> 02:32:46,620
have great people Regina Meredith they

3158
02:32:51,740 --> 02:32:48,721
have great people who are host on gaia

3159
02:32:54,200 --> 02:32:51,750
who bring out great you know these

3160
02:32:56,740 --> 02:32:54,210
people are true journalists but then

3161
02:32:58,461 --> 02:32:56,750
again they have this 50 million views

3162
02:33:00,650 --> 02:32:58,471
perhaps some people are gonna be

3163
02:33:02,180 --> 02:33:00,660
disappointed but they realize that they

3164
02:33:04,100 --> 02:33:02,190
will people who be subscribed because of

3165
02:33:05,871 --> 02:33:04,110
other things other material that they

3166
02:33:07,730 --> 02:33:05,881
have involved i mean we can discuss

3167
02:33:10,131 --> 02:33:07,740
after we come back from the break when i

3168
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was to the the History Channel I saw

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certain things that I did not like and

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you may share your own story but I can

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discuss that later

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sure well let's do that when we come

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back after the break and I do want to

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discuss speaking of Jay Widener might as

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well do a little Apollo right and I'm

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fàbregas time well we started to talk

3277
02:38:54,689 --> 02:38:53,079
about Apollo earlier J Widener comes up

3278
02:38:57,059 --> 02:38:54,699
it just means we have to go straight

3279
02:38:59,669 --> 02:38:57,069
back to it but you said something that

3280
02:39:02,909 --> 02:38:59,679
caught my attention earlier where you

3281
02:39:05,939 --> 02:39:02,919
said that you know we're bypassing the

3282
02:39:07,529 --> 02:39:05,949
moon and going straight to Mars what why

3283
02:39:09,689 --> 02:39:07,539
do you think that is because that it

3284
02:39:11,819 --> 02:39:09,699
appears to be the case for sure but why

3285
02:39:14,069 --> 02:39:11,829
do you think that is well I think that

3286
02:39:16,889 --> 02:39:14,079
right now we have very inexpensive

3287
02:39:19,289 --> 02:39:16,899
telescopes so if we pretended that we

3288
02:39:21,929 --> 02:39:19,299
were going to the moon and I don't think

3289
02:39:25,139 --> 02:39:21,939
that with what NASA presented us in the

3290
02:39:27,419 --> 02:39:25,149
late 1960s and early 70s I don't think

3291
02:39:29,639 --> 02:39:27,429
we actually went and back then we didn't

3292
02:39:33,149 --> 02:39:29,649
have the technology to be able to see

3293
02:39:35,130 --> 02:39:33,159
all that and what we call one small step

3294
02:39:38,959 --> 02:39:35,140
for man and one giant leap for mankind I

3295
02:39:41,219 --> 02:39:38,969
think it was 150 billion dollar hoax for

3296
02:39:42,989 --> 02:39:41,229
mankind and the reason why I said that I

3297
02:39:45,630 --> 02:39:42,999
don't mean to offend people there are

3298
02:39:47,939 --> 02:39:45,640
plenty of patriots and people who worked

3299
02:39:49,409 --> 02:39:47,949
at NASA during that time and some of you

3300
02:39:51,719 --> 02:39:49,419
have written to me saying how dare you

3301
02:39:53,219 --> 02:39:51,729
say that I was there well you didn't go

3302
02:39:56,729 --> 02:39:53,229
to the moon with them so how do you

3303
02:39:59,550 --> 02:39:56,739
really know and what I'm told is that

3304
02:40:01,709 --> 02:39:59,560
the Charter the NASA Charter actually

3305
02:40:03,329 --> 02:40:01,719
came from the Department of Defense and

3306
02:40:06,179 --> 02:40:03,339
what a being would have been told is

3307
02:40:09,329 --> 02:40:06,189
that there are two programs the civil

3308
02:40:11,279 --> 02:40:09,339
and the military one at least the civil

3309
02:40:13,649 --> 02:40:11,289
one I don't think we want to if we

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02:40:15,090 --> 02:40:13,659
actually went well we're not showing the

3311
02:40:16,769 --> 02:40:15,100
pictures perhaps we did it with the

3312
02:40:19,919 --> 02:40:16,779
military but what I'm told is that

3313
02:40:22,709 --> 02:40:19,929
whenever NASA since the rocket or a

3314
02:40:25,889 --> 02:40:22,719
space shuttle up there's always a dual

3315
02:40:28,099 --> 02:40:25,899
partner in the military going through

3316
02:40:33,809 --> 02:40:28,109
you know Vanderburgh or you know

3317
02:40:36,300 --> 02:40:33,819
Kwajalein that they send those ships up

3318
02:40:38,039 --> 02:40:36,310
there at the same time this person that

3319
02:40:39,989 --> 02:40:38,049
I gotta be interviewing shortly his

3320
02:40:43,590 --> 02:40:39,999
father allegedly was an engineer that

3321
02:40:46,050 --> 02:40:43,600
worked at area 51 he took his son to one

3322
02:40:46,900 --> 02:40:46,060
of those Air Force bases and he showed

3323
02:40:50,140 --> 02:40:46,910
one of the

3324
02:40:54,131 --> 02:40:50,150
gray space shuttles not the ones that

3325
02:40:56,290 --> 02:40:54,141
were used to seeing so you know to

3326
02:40:58,480 --> 02:40:56,300
answer your question I don't know if we

3327
02:41:01,480 --> 02:40:58,490
went to the moon or not but with what we

3328
02:41:04,170 --> 02:41:01,490
have been given the fact that the the

3329
02:41:07,360 --> 02:41:04,180
uniforms they that the vests were not

3330
02:41:10,560 --> 02:41:07,370
gold-plated the Hasselblad cameras were

3331
02:41:13,600 --> 02:41:10,570
not gold-plated the differential in

3332
02:41:16,091 --> 02:41:13,610
temperature during the day and the

3333
02:41:18,670 --> 02:41:16,101
evening and the moon the temperature

3334
02:41:22,780 --> 02:41:18,680
difference would renders those that the

3335
02:41:25,270 --> 02:41:22,790
film useless not to mention over 3,000

3336
02:41:27,881 --> 02:41:25,280
miles of the Van Allen belt which by the

3337
02:41:30,160 --> 02:41:27,891
way one NASA engineer about a year or

3338
02:41:32,830 --> 02:41:30,170
two ago there's a video on the web any

3339
02:41:35,950 --> 02:41:32,840
anybody can YouTube it he's saying we

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02:41:38,381 --> 02:41:35,960
are now prepared to provide our

3341
02:41:40,660 --> 02:41:38,391
astronauts a way to go through the Van

3342
02:41:42,370 --> 02:41:40,670
Allen belt and the first thing that came

3343
02:41:45,610 --> 02:41:42,380
to mind was wait a second thing we do

3344
02:41:47,710 --> 02:41:45,620
that almost 50 years ago so when you

3345
02:41:50,230 --> 02:41:47,720
look at the pictures from NASA and you

3346
02:41:52,950 --> 02:41:50,240
see the lunar module on the alleged moon

3347
02:41:56,920 --> 02:41:52,960
and you don't see any soil disturbance

3348
02:41:59,230 --> 02:41:56,930
you see almost like you know paper and

3349
02:42:02,530 --> 02:41:59,240
you see these you know very flimsy

3350
02:42:04,270 --> 02:42:02,540
material I just don't see how what we

3351
02:42:06,131 --> 02:42:04,280
were shown there I think what we were

3352
02:42:08,650 --> 02:42:06,141
shown there it was filmed in a studio in

3353
02:42:11,261 --> 02:42:08,660
the event that something happened on the

3354
02:42:13,210 --> 02:42:11,271
way to the moon or at the moon and if we

3355
02:42:15,910 --> 02:42:13,220
actually went there and what this man is

3356
02:42:19,301 --> 02:42:15,920
telling me is that we actually got there

3357
02:42:21,460 --> 02:42:19,311
and we didn't discover them on somebody

3358
02:42:25,140 --> 02:42:21,470
was already there that's the other side

3359
02:42:28,841 --> 02:42:25,150
of the story that is the other side and

3360
02:42:32,170 --> 02:42:28,851
for me and I wanted we got to go back to

3361
02:42:36,030 --> 02:42:32,180
Flat Earth right after this for me when

3362
02:42:40,960 --> 02:42:36,040
I went to the Smithsonian and I see

3363
02:42:43,180 --> 02:42:40,970
apollo gemini and apollo gemini and

3364
02:42:48,040 --> 02:42:43,190
mercury capsules and i look at those and

3365
02:42:50,730 --> 02:42:48,050
especially the apollo 1 that technology

3366
02:42:53,051 --> 02:42:50,740
because you can go right at me look and

3367
02:42:57,220 --> 02:42:53,061
you look inside and there's you know a

3368
02:43:00,461 --> 02:42:57,230
couple of levers right a couple of a

3369
02:43:03,551 --> 02:43:00,471
couple of vu meters but

3370
02:43:06,640 --> 02:43:03,561
there's no technology in that thing I

3371
02:43:08,740 --> 02:43:06,650
that's the disturbing part and knowing

3372
02:43:11,801 --> 02:43:08,750
what I know now about micrometeorites

3373
02:43:14,140 --> 02:43:11,811
and and radiation and heat like you're

3374
02:43:16,121 --> 02:43:14,150
talking about heat dissipation in that

3375
02:43:18,070 --> 02:43:16,131
that capsule it would have to be moving

3376
02:43:20,350 --> 02:43:18,080
all the time because great it would be

3377
02:43:22,180 --> 02:43:20,360
heated up on once I'm talking you know

3378
02:43:25,240 --> 02:43:22,190
hundreds and hundreds and hundreds of

3379
02:43:27,780 --> 02:43:25,250
degrees instantly and then you've got to

3380
02:43:30,640 --> 02:43:27,790
cool it off on the other side it's cool

3381
02:43:32,110 --> 02:43:30,650
you know what I mean and the shadows on

3382
02:43:34,030 --> 02:43:32,120
the moon you're standing in the shadow

3383
02:43:36,610 --> 02:43:34,040
you step out of the shadow you get baked

3384
02:43:38,591 --> 02:43:36,620
you step into the shadow and you're at

3385
02:43:41,381 --> 02:43:38,601
minus 200 degrees or whatever

3386
02:43:43,541 --> 02:43:41,391
no that's that I don't see those

3387
02:43:46,091 --> 02:43:43,551
spacesuits and whatever's in those

3388
02:43:48,850 --> 02:43:46,101
backpacks keeping up with that that's

3389
02:43:51,970 --> 02:43:48,860
just me is the technology side of it now

3390
02:43:55,270 --> 02:43:51,980
but if that's the case what about Edgar

3391
02:43:59,440 --> 02:43:55,280
Mitchell you know and you interview him

3392
02:44:02,110 --> 02:43:59,450
now what do you do with that you know do

3393
02:44:04,511 --> 02:44:02,120
you say okay I don't believe that you

3394
02:44:06,190 --> 02:44:04,521
did it you know what do you what do you

3395
02:44:08,440 --> 02:44:06,200
do with with with that when you're

3396
02:44:11,140 --> 02:44:08,450
dealing with somebody that is is a hero

3397
02:44:12,881 --> 02:44:11,150
and we do look up to well that's what we

3398
02:44:15,820 --> 02:44:12,891
think we think they're heroes and you

3399
02:44:19,001 --> 02:44:15,830
know did a lot of great for the UFO

3400
02:44:20,470 --> 02:44:19,011
community too yes but a lot of great you

3401
02:44:22,871 --> 02:44:20,480
know validity for we trying to

3402
02:44:25,480 --> 02:44:22,881
accomplish and he was the one did one

3403
02:44:28,631 --> 02:44:25,490
astronaut that continued to discuss the

3404
02:44:31,240 --> 02:44:28,641
secrecy that then he had Neil Armstrong

3405
02:44:33,881 --> 02:44:31,250
who never addressed anything he did not

3406
02:44:36,310 --> 02:44:33,891
give an interview me as a seven year old

3407
02:44:38,621 --> 02:44:36,320
I remember in Puerto Rico he was going

3408
02:44:40,930 --> 02:44:38,631
to be arriving to give a press

3409
02:44:42,371 --> 02:44:40,940
conference in the the ports that was

3410
02:44:44,291 --> 02:44:42,381
there since seven o'clock in the morning

3411
02:44:46,810 --> 02:44:44,301
you know ready to say welcome mr.

3412
02:44:49,091 --> 02:44:46,820
Armstrong he never showed up and he

3413
02:44:51,220 --> 02:44:49,101
never gave interviews and you could see

3414
02:44:54,001 --> 02:44:51,230
it when they came back allegedly from

3415
02:44:57,131 --> 02:44:54,011
the moon the very first press conference

3416
02:44:59,820 --> 02:44:57,141
you would think I you and I would be

3417
02:45:03,270 --> 02:44:59,830
jumping up and down because the best

3418
02:45:05,831 --> 02:45:03,280
point ever technology wise for Humanity

3419
02:45:08,860 --> 02:45:05,841
yet we see these three people they're

3420
02:45:11,381 --> 02:45:08,870
almost as if somebody died that makes no

3421
02:45:13,480 --> 02:45:11,391
sense to me but again it's to technology

3422
02:45:14,330 --> 02:45:13,490
the Russians were more ahead than we

3423
02:45:16,910 --> 02:45:14,340
were the where

3424
02:45:20,510 --> 02:45:16,920
they're first and all of a sudden we

3425
02:45:22,370 --> 02:45:20,520
have all this we have you know able to

3426
02:45:24,979 --> 02:45:22,380
go every single time with the exception

3427
02:45:27,170 --> 02:45:24,989
of course the ones that have failed and

3428
02:45:30,170 --> 02:45:27,180
the other one that almost didn't make it

3429
02:45:32,840 --> 02:45:30,180
but in every occasion we made it and we

3430
02:45:37,490 --> 02:45:32,850
brought all this from the moon and now

3431
02:45:40,280 --> 02:45:37,500
somebody gives in Europe a souvenir of a

3432
02:45:41,540 --> 02:45:40,290
you know balloon or rocket and then they

3433
02:45:44,210 --> 02:45:41,550
were able to find out that it was

3434
02:45:46,160 --> 02:45:44,220
actually petrified wood yeah I don't

3435
02:45:48,649 --> 02:45:46,170
know it's very strange to me I think

3436
02:45:50,899 --> 02:45:48,659
this is a secret that has to be kept I

3437
02:45:54,109 --> 02:45:50,909
don't know if it was Stanley Kubrick who

3438
02:45:56,689 --> 02:45:54,119
did it it's very plausible because ever

3439
02:46:00,260 --> 02:45:56,699
since that happened Stanley Kubrick did

3440
02:46:02,090 --> 02:46:00,270
not move from London every single movie

3441
02:46:04,490 --> 02:46:02,100
he made even if it was going to be in

3442
02:46:06,439 --> 02:46:04,500
Vietnam he could have used many other

3443
02:46:08,780 --> 02:46:06,449
locations but full-metal-jacket was

3444
02:46:10,519 --> 02:46:08,790
fully filmed in London they sync with

3445
02:46:12,649 --> 02:46:10,529
the same thing with the other movies he

3446
02:46:14,479 --> 02:46:12,659
was scared of coming back to the United

3447
02:46:17,809 --> 02:46:14,489
States and we start looking at all the

3448
02:46:19,639 --> 02:46:17,819
people that were involved in this many

3449
02:46:21,979 --> 02:46:19,649
of them disappeared or or died

3450
02:46:25,519 --> 02:46:21,989
mysteriously and the fact that we

3451
02:46:27,889 --> 02:46:25,529
haven't gone you know past 400 miles you

3452
02:46:29,929 --> 02:46:27,899
know up that that's a pretty tricky

3453
02:46:31,429 --> 02:46:29,939
thing for me and second that video that

3454
02:46:35,179 --> 02:46:31,439
you're talking about that an interview

3455
02:46:36,740 --> 02:46:35,189
when he said that press conference when

3456
02:46:38,960 --> 02:46:36,750
that NASA engineer goes you know well

3457
02:46:42,170 --> 02:46:38,970
finally we've got the technology to get

3458
02:46:47,290 --> 02:46:42,180
through the Van Allen belt whoa whoa

3459
02:46:49,670 --> 02:46:47,300
what back back up a step here we

3460
02:46:51,740 --> 02:46:49,680
allegedly already did that many times

3461
02:46:54,260 --> 02:46:51,750
over and now you're addressing it a

3462
02:46:56,719 --> 02:46:54,270
second time around that's a pretty

3463
02:46:58,219 --> 02:46:56,729
trippy thing for you to just suggest out

3464
02:47:00,439 --> 02:46:58,229
there and I can't believe more people

3465
02:47:02,840 --> 02:47:00,449
didn't pick up on it somebody asked

3466
02:47:04,370 --> 02:47:02,850
Ellen bean why don't the astronauts you

3467
02:47:07,910 --> 02:47:04,380
know mr. bean what's your reaction to

3468
02:47:10,460 --> 02:47:07,920
the the fact that all of a sudden what

3469
02:47:13,269 --> 02:47:10,470
about the Van Allen belt and his answer

3470
02:47:15,469 --> 02:47:13,279
was what we hadn't discovered it then

3471
02:47:17,870 --> 02:47:15,479
does that mean that because he wasn't

3472
02:47:20,809 --> 02:47:17,880
discovered you didn't go through it so

3473
02:47:21,979 --> 02:47:20,819
the answers are so infantile yeah that I

3474
02:47:22,700 --> 02:47:21,989
just don't understand how people just

3475
02:47:25,010 --> 02:47:22,710
buy it

3476
02:47:27,019 --> 02:47:25,020
yeah radiation out of sight out of mine

3477
02:47:27,410 --> 02:47:27,029
we didn't know it was there so it didn't

3478
02:47:29,600 --> 02:47:27,420
effect

3479
02:47:32,420 --> 02:47:29,610
it doesn't work that way it looked to me

3480
02:47:34,640 --> 02:47:32,430
to me anything that is discovered to me

3481
02:47:37,070 --> 02:47:34,650
or creator or invented the car

3482
02:47:39,890 --> 02:47:37,080
everything is commercialized you gonna

3483
02:47:42,860 --> 02:47:39,900
tell me that by now in the 21st century

3484
02:47:45,110 --> 02:47:42,870
we don't have hotels or tourism space

3485
02:47:47,630 --> 02:47:45,120
tourism imagine platforms up there

3486
02:47:49,370 --> 02:47:47,640
there's no way that we haven't returned

3487
02:47:51,320 --> 02:47:49,380
in 50 years and now all of a sudden

3488
02:47:52,880 --> 02:47:51,330
we're gonna go to Mars you know when you

3489
02:47:55,160 --> 02:47:52,890
look at what's happening in Greenland

3490
02:47:59,179 --> 02:47:55,170
and other places and you go to Google

3491
02:48:01,370 --> 02:47:59,189
Earth and you see that that geographical

3492
02:48:04,070 --> 02:48:01,380
area and you see some Rovers there were

3493
02:48:06,500 --> 02:48:04,080
NASA quote-unquote practices it looks

3494
02:48:08,450 --> 02:48:06,510
exactly if you can manipulate Photoshop

3495
02:48:10,969 --> 02:48:08,460
and put a little bit redder or like a

3496
02:48:14,060 --> 02:48:10,979
red tint mm-hm it is exactly what we see

3497
02:48:16,190 --> 02:48:14,070
these Rovers were supposed to be there

3498
02:48:17,690 --> 02:48:16,200
for I think it was two months and they

3499
02:48:22,490 --> 02:48:17,700
have been there for years by the way who

3500
02:48:27,950 --> 02:48:22,500
cleans the lens after the Martian dust

3501
02:48:31,100 --> 02:48:27,960
storms so makes you wonder to the the

3502
02:48:34,700 --> 02:48:31,110
video of the International Space Station

3503
02:48:36,350 --> 02:48:34,710
again as far as we go now it was the

3504
02:48:39,320 --> 02:48:36,360
Space Shuttle but you know we just stay

3505
02:48:42,429 --> 02:48:39,330
here in Earth's orbit and the video of

3506
02:48:44,750 --> 02:48:42,439
the International Space Station going

3507
02:48:48,020 --> 02:48:44,760
around the earth is some of the most

3508
02:48:51,740 --> 02:48:48,030
incredible messer mesmerized by those

3509
02:48:54,800 --> 02:48:51,750
videos when you see those and we discuss

3510
02:48:57,020 --> 02:48:54,810
the Flat Earth or you see the Space

3511
02:48:59,420 --> 02:48:57,030
Shuttle videos with the arm and

3512
02:49:02,030 --> 02:48:59,430
retrieving satellites and you're looking

3513
02:49:04,219 --> 02:49:02,040
at the earth you know as a globe in the

3514
02:49:07,190 --> 02:49:04,229
background do you have an issue with

3515
02:49:11,060 --> 02:49:07,200
that is is NASA if that's the case if

3516
02:49:14,810 --> 02:49:11,070
the earth is flat then that means every

3517
02:49:17,710 --> 02:49:14,820
single video before Photoshop and CGI

3518
02:49:20,719 --> 02:49:17,720
has been perfected has been completely

3519
02:49:22,280 --> 02:49:20,729
manipulated where would NASA have that

3520
02:49:24,530 --> 02:49:22,290
technology because that's the only

3521
02:49:27,050 --> 02:49:24,540
answer we would have everything has been

3522
02:49:29,990 --> 02:49:27,060
manipulated well I have to tell you at

3523
02:49:31,010 --> 02:49:30,000
II said II again and this is one of the

3524
02:49:34,060 --> 02:49:31,020
issues I have with the Flat Earth

3525
02:49:39,200 --> 02:49:34,070
because when I was there we were seeing

3526
02:49:41,389 --> 02:49:39,210
this so-called ISS you probably saw it

3527
02:49:43,639 --> 02:49:41,399
too yep yep you know every

3528
02:49:45,590 --> 02:49:43,649
every hour mm-hmm it would come and we

3529
02:49:46,489 --> 02:49:45,600
would see it now some people say oh

3530
02:49:49,460 --> 02:49:46,499
that's not it

3531
02:49:53,479 --> 02:49:49,470
well something big was coming around and

3532
02:49:56,750 --> 02:49:53,489
I remember in 2011 or 2012 the Space

3533
02:49:59,779 --> 02:49:56,760
Shuttle was supposedly linked to it at

3534
02:50:02,989 --> 02:49:59,789
the time and we actually kind of saw

3535
02:50:04,550 --> 02:50:02,999
something behind it so again I'm

3536
02:50:07,519 --> 02:50:04,560
open-minded to all of this but you know

3537
02:50:10,760 --> 02:50:07,529
I have I have questions the first time I

3538
02:50:13,880 --> 02:50:10,770
saw the ISS no let me correct myself the

3539
02:50:17,359 --> 02:50:13,890
only time I've seen a watched it with my

3540
02:50:20,559 --> 02:50:17,369
naked eye this was we had some friends

3541
02:50:23,449 --> 02:50:20,569
with and they had the app on their phone

3542
02:50:27,319 --> 02:50:23,459
hey check this out it's gonna fly

3543
02:50:29,899 --> 02:50:27,329
directly over us in ten minutes right so

3544
02:50:31,880 --> 02:50:29,909
we run outside and we go out front and

3545
02:50:33,409 --> 02:50:31,890
and our friend points over you know it's

3546
02:50:37,099 --> 02:50:33,419
gonna pop up over there and it's gonna

3547
02:50:39,500 --> 02:50:37,109
and sure enough to the second right pops

3548
02:50:43,189 --> 02:50:39,510
up over the horizon and and and flies

3549
02:50:46,250 --> 02:50:43,199
right over us and and disappears but you

3550
02:50:49,130 --> 02:50:46,260
can this is not your imagination you can

3551
02:50:53,569 --> 02:50:49,140
see the solar panels you can see shape

3552
02:50:57,170 --> 02:50:53,579
you can see that is definitely orbiting

3553
02:51:00,109 --> 02:50:57,180
the copper planet and it's it's so cool

3554
02:51:02,510 --> 02:51:00,119
that it is so massive I don't know how

3555
02:51:04,670 --> 02:51:02,520
many miles up it is but but it is so

3556
02:51:07,010 --> 02:51:04,680
massive that you can actually see it's

3557
02:51:10,729 --> 02:51:07,020
not a white dot you can actually see

3558
02:51:12,500 --> 02:51:10,739
shape to it that for NASA's credibility

3559
02:51:16,219 --> 02:51:12,510
for example I think it's two years ago

3560
02:51:18,649 --> 02:51:16,229
you probably saw that video of epic the

3561
02:51:21,979 --> 02:51:18,659
telescope the epic telescope that shows

3562
02:51:25,519 --> 02:51:21,989
earth and you see the moon going in

3563
02:51:28,099 --> 02:51:25,529
front of Earth yes going around it but

3564
02:51:30,739 --> 02:51:28,109
not a single cloud formation moves and

3565
02:51:32,420 --> 02:51:30,749
this is an issue I have because if you

3566
02:51:34,969 --> 02:51:32,430
look at the size of Earth in comparison

3567
02:51:37,010 --> 02:51:34,979
to to the moon then all these images

3568
02:51:40,059 --> 02:51:37,020
that we get from the moon where we show

3569
02:51:42,979 --> 02:51:40,069
the little blue marble that is

3570
02:51:45,370 --> 02:51:42,989
impossible with the size of Earth that

3571
02:51:48,500 --> 02:51:45,380
should be covering the entire panorama

3572
02:51:50,599 --> 02:51:48,510
so these are questions that I have and

3573
02:51:55,011 --> 02:51:50,609
NASA cannot answer them or they refuse

3574
02:51:57,291 --> 02:51:55,021
to answer them I had I had a mark

3575
02:51:59,751 --> 02:51:57,301
Dantonio on the show yes I know him yes

3576
02:52:01,881 --> 02:51:59,761
yet last month on the show they're not

3577
02:52:04,131 --> 02:52:01,891
putting him to task I'm like look with

3578
02:52:07,991 --> 02:52:04,141
all of the amateur astronomers on this

3579
02:52:11,030 --> 02:52:08,001
planet that are finding asteroids right

3580
02:52:13,820 --> 02:52:11,040
that NASA can't find or anybody else or

3581
02:52:15,261 --> 02:52:13,830
these big professional observatories we

3582
02:52:16,911 --> 02:52:15,271
have all these astronomers around the

3583
02:52:21,230 --> 02:52:16,921
world with telescopes in their backyard

3584
02:52:24,020 --> 02:52:21,240
why can't why can't Hubble shoot the

3585
02:52:26,241 --> 02:52:24,030
moon why can't we look at the moon

3586
02:52:28,400 --> 02:52:26,251
accurately why can't we point the

3587
02:52:30,411 --> 02:52:28,410
Palomar Observatory the Vatican

3588
02:52:32,690 --> 02:52:30,421
telescope or Lucifer or any of these

3589
02:52:36,501 --> 02:52:32,700
other things that they have at the moon

3590
02:52:38,951 --> 02:52:36,511
and let's look at things close up why

3591
02:52:42,621 --> 02:52:38,961
not and he gave me a pretty long

3592
02:52:45,470 --> 02:52:42,631
explanation as to why and how the the

3593
02:52:48,171 --> 02:52:45,480
digital pickups on Hubble you know one

3594
02:52:52,730 --> 02:52:48,181
pixel and the moon would only be one

3595
02:52:54,530 --> 02:52:52,740
pixel one line Hubble you know what give

3596
02:52:56,060 --> 02:52:54,540
me some close-ups of the moon that's

3597
02:52:59,060 --> 02:52:56,070
what it's all I want

3598
02:53:01,491 --> 02:52:59,070
I cannot believe when I was a kid I

3599
02:53:03,140 --> 02:53:01,501
would sit out with my dad's telescope

3600
02:53:05,780 --> 02:53:03,150
and I would look at all the craters on

3601
02:53:09,171 --> 02:53:05,790
the moon with this little telescope in

3602
02:53:11,360 --> 02:53:09,181
the backyard why can't we look at the

3603
02:53:14,480 --> 02:53:11,370
moon why can't we look at all of this

3604
02:53:17,751 --> 02:53:14,490
stuff we should be able to to see the

3605
02:53:20,121 --> 02:53:17,761
the rover tire tracks all over the place

3606
02:53:23,121 --> 02:53:20,131
and the Rovers up there somewhere right

3607
02:53:25,251 --> 02:53:23,131
where are those pictures everything that

3608
02:53:26,991 --> 02:53:25,261
we have is from far away and you have to

3609
02:53:29,661 --> 02:53:27,001
squint your eyes and go okay I guess

3610
02:53:31,761 --> 02:53:29,671
that's the rover you know I guess that's

3611
02:53:34,430 --> 02:53:31,771
the lunar lander I guess that's the

3612
02:53:38,180 --> 02:53:34,440
American flag okay where's the close-up

3613
02:53:43,211 --> 02:53:38,190
of the campsite exactly I don't know if

3614
02:53:45,680 --> 02:53:43,221
you know the story of Jay whitener and

3615
02:53:47,390 --> 02:53:45,690
Richard C Hoagland years ago don't know

3616
02:53:50,930 --> 02:53:47,400
do you know the story of how that we're

3617
02:53:54,291 --> 02:53:50,940
trying to to assemble this operation to

3618
02:53:56,661 --> 02:53:54,301
send a rocket to the moon to map the

3619
02:53:59,121 --> 02:53:56,671
moon in 3d yes and then bring do you

3620
02:54:02,421 --> 02:53:59,131
know the story how they called NASA and

3621
02:54:04,581 --> 02:54:02,431
a friend of Jays and basically the guy

3622
02:54:06,701 --> 02:54:04,591
said you are not going to the moon if

3623
02:54:09,411 --> 02:54:06,711
you try to launch a rocket we'll just

3624
02:54:13,551 --> 02:54:09,421
we'll just kill it out of the sky don't

3625
02:54:16,400 --> 02:54:13,561
ever call me again why you know that's

3626
02:54:18,381 --> 02:54:16,410
the thing and I get I get that but I

3627
02:54:20,921 --> 02:54:18,391
mean if you're hiding I'm if you have

3628
02:54:23,301 --> 02:54:20,931
nothing to hide then what's the big deal

3629
02:54:26,091 --> 02:54:23,311
even though why is it now that the moon

3630
02:54:29,331 --> 02:54:26,101
certain air where we landed you cannot

3631
02:54:32,211 --> 02:54:29,341
go back any other country they're not

3632
02:54:35,241 --> 02:54:32,221
allowed to go where we lend it China

3633
02:54:37,100 --> 02:54:35,251
wanted to write China wanted to but they

3634
02:54:40,911 --> 02:54:37,110
were told you cannot land where we lend

3635
02:54:43,161 --> 02:54:40,921
it and that only you would let it arnica

3636
02:54:45,470 --> 02:54:43,171
there are over 15 nations that have a

3637
02:54:48,501 --> 02:54:45,480
treaty there that do not allow anybody

3638
02:54:50,841 --> 02:54:48,511
to go beyond a certain point what is

3639
02:54:53,451 --> 02:54:50,851
there you would think that if this story

3640
02:54:55,791 --> 02:54:53,461
of Admiral Byrd is true that he found

3641
02:54:58,610 --> 02:54:55,801
another continent out there full of

3642
02:55:00,831 --> 02:54:58,620
resources you would think by now Exxon

3643
02:55:02,961 --> 02:55:00,841
or the big big companies would be out

3644
02:55:05,091 --> 02:55:02,971
there mining or bringing some of the

3645
02:55:07,161 --> 02:55:05,101
their resources back here but it's not

3646
02:55:09,770 --> 02:55:07,171
allowed same thing with the moon you

3647
02:55:15,051 --> 02:55:09,780
would think that Amazon or or you know

3648
02:55:18,530 --> 02:55:15,061
Tesla or SpaceX would have a camera up

3649
02:55:19,881 --> 02:55:18,540
there looking at Earth 24/7 and just

3650
02:55:22,520 --> 02:55:19,891
have little commercials on the right

3651
02:55:24,470 --> 02:55:22,530
side and you can see earth 24/7

3652
02:55:27,020 --> 02:55:24,480
isn't it strange that he hasn't been

3653
02:55:29,060 --> 02:55:27,030
commercialized yet I think that we just

3654
02:55:30,980 --> 02:55:29,070
didn't have the capability or we were

3655
02:55:34,461 --> 02:55:30,990
told don't ever come back one of the two

3656
02:55:37,341 --> 02:55:34,471
do you think that the Vatican is also

3657
02:55:39,650 --> 02:55:37,351
because they've now flip-flopped if you

3658
02:55:42,951 --> 02:55:39,660
go back to Copernicus and Galileo they

3659
02:55:45,291 --> 02:55:42,961
flip-flop probably 200 times yes in the

3660
02:55:49,161 --> 02:55:45,301
last few hundred years do you think the

3661
02:55:53,140 --> 02:55:49,171
Vatican has known from the beginning the

3662
02:55:56,270 --> 02:55:53,150
answer to to all of this and et

3663
02:55:57,801 --> 02:55:56,280
absolutely I think that when we think of

3664
02:56:00,530 --> 02:55:57,811
the burning of the Library of Alexandria

3665
02:56:03,020 --> 02:56:00,540
I think that they kept a lot in the

3666
02:56:05,480 --> 02:56:03,030
catacombs underneath the Vatican I can

3667
02:56:07,100 --> 02:56:05,490
guarantee it they have so much stuff

3668
02:56:08,841 --> 02:56:07,110
there that they don't want to release

3669
02:56:12,621 --> 02:56:08,851
the world because it will be detrimental

3670
02:56:14,961 --> 02:56:12,631
to them but I remember 2009 I think it

3671
02:56:17,961 --> 02:56:14,971
was when this whole this glozer started

3672
02:56:20,810 --> 02:56:17,971
taking place once again somebody from

3673
02:56:23,270 --> 02:56:20,820
the Vatican said ETS are our brother

3674
02:56:25,461 --> 02:56:23,280
and then this TV series v that revamped

3675
02:56:28,251 --> 02:56:25,471
V came along and I don't really remember

3676
02:56:30,200 --> 02:56:28,261
when you know the priests were concerned

3677
02:56:33,200 --> 02:56:30,210
that people were gonna give devotion to

3678
02:56:35,751 --> 02:56:33,210
the ETS but no we actually need more of

3679
02:56:37,280 --> 02:56:35,761
the church now I think they know look

3680
02:56:39,801 --> 02:56:37,290
what's happening here in Arizona they

3681
02:56:41,801 --> 02:56:39,811
have as you mentioned Lucifer that's

3682
02:56:44,240 --> 02:56:41,811
actually right here in the Vatican

3683
02:56:47,930 --> 02:56:44,250
telescope he used to be in the night

3684
02:56:49,910 --> 02:56:47,940
until the 1980s in Castel Gandolfo in

3685
02:56:51,410 --> 02:56:49,920
Rome but because of the visual pollution

3686
02:56:53,631 --> 02:56:51,420
they needed to scout for another

3687
02:56:55,940 --> 02:56:53,641
location where did they find it right

3688
02:56:58,791 --> 02:56:55,950
here into some probably about 35 40

3689
02:57:00,291 --> 02:56:58,801
miles away from me so why is it they're

3690
02:57:00,921 --> 02:57:00,301
looking for wormwood from the Beirut

3691
02:57:04,011 --> 02:57:00,931
planet-x

3692
02:57:06,890 --> 02:57:04,021
why so much interest in what's happening

3693
02:57:10,970 --> 02:57:06,900
outside of planet Earth if allegedly we

3694
02:57:13,930 --> 02:57:10,980
are alone in the universe and I kind of

3695
02:57:20,150 --> 02:57:13,940
want to leave with this when we look at

3696
02:57:22,131 --> 02:57:20,160
guys like Van Tassel and Adamski and the

3697
02:57:26,900 --> 02:57:22,141
Venetians and all of the contactee

3698
02:57:28,520 --> 02:57:26,910
movement of the 50s and you look at all

3699
02:57:30,770 --> 02:57:28,530
of those interviews from people on the

3700
02:57:33,980 --> 02:57:30,780
street yeah cruised on the Flying Saucer

3701
02:57:38,150 --> 02:57:33,990
last week and and and you watch these

3702
02:57:40,160 --> 02:57:38,160
over and over and over again with the

3703
02:57:42,711 --> 02:57:40,170
damn ski with Van Tassel and the rest of

3704
02:57:45,501 --> 02:57:42,721
that movement from the 50s do you think

3705
02:57:46,820 --> 02:57:45,511
that there was actually something to

3706
02:57:52,610 --> 02:57:46,830
that do you think that there was

3707
02:57:54,711 --> 02:57:52,620
something going on that that the

3708
02:57:56,631 --> 02:57:54,721
government knew about and they're going

3709
02:57:59,810 --> 02:57:56,641
to and I'm going to address this too

3710
02:58:02,120 --> 02:57:59,820
today the tinfoil hat thing everybody is

3711
02:58:04,430 --> 02:58:02,130
crazy that's what happened in the 50s

3712
02:58:08,780 --> 02:58:04,440
everything gets dismissed we're going

3713
02:58:11,001 --> 02:58:08,790
through that again today here do you

3714
02:58:13,430 --> 02:58:11,011
think there was something to Adamski and

3715
02:58:15,530 --> 02:58:13,440
Van Tassel and that movement I think

3716
02:58:17,511 --> 02:58:15,540
there was something to it I am at death

3717
02:58:19,671 --> 02:58:17,521
again I don't believe anybody I either

3718
02:58:21,980 --> 02:58:19,681
know or I don't I can only take their

3719
02:58:24,291 --> 02:58:21,990
word for it at the same time I don't

3720
02:58:27,171 --> 02:58:24,301
like it when movements become cultic and

3721
02:58:29,120 --> 02:58:27,181
because the Adamski it was almost like a

3722
02:58:30,950 --> 02:58:29,130
call George Van Tassel the same thing

3723
02:58:33,011 --> 02:58:30,960
you know you have to look at this in a

3724
02:58:35,350 --> 02:58:33,021
very very objective manner

3725
02:58:37,150 --> 02:58:35,360
in a you know scientifically if you will

3726
02:58:39,280 --> 02:58:37,160
so many people that you and I interview

3727
02:58:41,140 --> 02:58:39,290
all the time do we believe them well

3728
02:58:43,121 --> 02:58:41,150
unless they take me on a ride on the

3729
02:58:45,400 --> 02:58:43,131
spaceship all I can say it's this is

3730
02:58:47,051 --> 02:58:45,410
very interesting I am NOT denouncing

3731
02:58:49,180 --> 02:58:47,061
what you're saying I cannot prove you

3732
02:58:51,761 --> 02:58:49,190
otherwise at the same time I've had

3733
02:58:54,070 --> 02:58:51,771
witnesses who have such a compelling

3734
02:58:56,201 --> 02:58:54,080
story Chris Bledsoe I don't know if you

3735
02:58:58,661 --> 02:58:56,211
know who he is absolutely incredible

3736
02:59:00,791 --> 02:58:58,671
story of somebody who was a very

3737
02:59:03,551 --> 02:59:00,801
successful contractor very little

3738
02:59:05,140 --> 02:59:03,561
religious family and his story is just

3739
02:59:07,360 --> 02:59:05,150
when you listen to what he has to say

3740
02:59:11,470 --> 02:59:07,370
you think wait a second you know maybe

3741
02:59:16,831 --> 02:59:11,480
there's something to this yeah I was

3742
02:59:20,291 --> 02:59:16,841
just thinking Thomas Reid I mean yeah

3743
02:59:23,940 --> 02:59:20,301
another example of a successful family

3744
02:59:26,621 --> 02:59:23,950
families and politics Tad's a politician

3745
02:59:30,131 --> 02:59:26,631
everything is correct about the family

3746
02:59:32,291 --> 02:59:30,141
but yet he's got this incredible story

3747
02:59:33,970 --> 02:59:32,301
so where do you go with this you know me

3748
02:59:35,890 --> 02:59:33,980
and my brother we walked on the crab

3749
02:59:38,470 --> 02:59:35,900
they showed us this they took us in the

3750
02:59:42,430 --> 02:59:38,480
classroom and it showed us and what do

3751
02:59:43,841 --> 02:59:42,440
you do with that so much today is talked

3752
02:59:46,331 --> 02:59:43,851
about evidence I know you're dealing

3753
02:59:49,360 --> 02:59:46,341
with the same thing okay well this is

3754
02:59:51,881 --> 02:59:49,370
great the story is great but what about

3755
02:59:54,430 --> 02:59:51,891
the evidence and and how do you answer

3756
02:59:56,110 --> 02:59:54,440
that when somebody says to you Mel okay

3757
02:59:57,970 --> 02:59:56,120
it's it's great that you had them on the

3758
02:59:59,860 --> 02:59:57,980
show but you didn't ask him about

3759
03:00:02,650 --> 02:59:59,870
evidence you know what about the

3760
03:00:04,360 --> 03:00:02,660
evidence how do you answer that now I've

3761
03:00:06,280 --> 03:00:04,370
asked the question many times I've said

3762
03:00:07,690 --> 03:00:06,290
hey where they come from a lot of times

3763
03:00:09,881 --> 03:00:07,700
one of the figure in the answer

3764
03:00:10,751 --> 03:00:09,891
frequently asked questions is that but

3765
03:00:12,911 --> 03:00:10,761
they don't want to tell us where they

3766
03:00:14,291 --> 03:00:12,921
come from I would you if you look at the

3767
03:00:15,761 --> 03:00:14,301
amount of turmoil that we have on this

3768
03:00:17,890 --> 03:00:15,771
planet and the way we treat each other

3769
03:00:20,110 --> 03:00:17,900
would you give your address so I get

3770
03:00:23,261 --> 03:00:20,120
that but you know are you bringing me an

3771
03:00:25,241 --> 03:00:23,271
ashtray from the craft are you bringing

3772
03:00:26,680 --> 03:00:25,251
me some kind of evidence and the answer

3773
03:00:29,951 --> 03:00:26,690
is always no they're not they don't

3774
03:00:32,530 --> 03:00:29,961
allow you they disable you they paralyze

3775
03:00:34,360 --> 03:00:32,540
you I can only take their word for what

3776
03:00:36,940 --> 03:00:34,370
they're saying this is an area that I'm

3777
03:00:39,881 --> 03:00:36,950
there is very interested in and I'm

3778
03:00:42,610 --> 03:00:39,891
hoping that one day we can have more

3779
03:00:45,640 --> 03:00:42,620
evidence the question is with the powers

3780
03:00:46,990 --> 03:00:45,650
that want to be allow you I mean these

3781
03:00:48,910 --> 03:00:47,000
pictures that I'm talking about

3782
03:00:53,410 --> 03:00:48,920
Mark Dantonio saw those pictures by the

3783
03:00:54,820 --> 03:00:53,420
way and you know I had another guest of

3784
03:00:56,710 --> 03:00:54,830
the shopmen and an intranet mentioned

3785
03:00:59,170 --> 03:00:56,720
his name is elderly now but he was

3786
03:01:00,580 --> 03:00:59,180
furious with mark because mark was the

3787
03:01:02,050 --> 03:01:00,590
bunkie and every single one of them and

3788
03:01:04,599 --> 03:01:02,060
the other person who is a former

3789
03:01:07,059 --> 03:01:04,609
military person said mark come on now

3790
03:01:08,889 --> 03:01:07,069
but anyway love you mark as well so I

3791
03:01:10,990 --> 03:01:08,899
don't know the answer is I don't know

3792
03:01:14,070 --> 03:01:11,000
I'm still looking I'm interested in the

3793
03:01:17,219 --> 03:01:14,080
topic I hope that one day we can finally

3794
03:01:19,269 --> 03:01:17,229
embrace these beings whether they're

3795
03:01:21,519 --> 03:01:19,279
interdimensional extraterrestrial or

3796
03:01:23,590 --> 03:01:21,529
simply coming from another puddle if you

3797
03:01:26,590 --> 03:01:23,600
believe in the Flat Earth whatever it is

3798
03:01:29,889 --> 03:01:26,600
I strongly believe in my heart in my

3799
03:01:32,170 --> 03:01:29,899
soul that there's life outside of this

3800
03:01:34,030 --> 03:01:32,180
plane or this planet and there are

3801
03:01:36,040 --> 03:01:34,040
answers to many questions and I hope

3802
03:01:38,650 --> 03:01:36,050
that one day we can interact with them

3803
03:01:42,729 --> 03:01:38,660
thank you so much malware can everybody

3804
03:01:44,500 --> 03:01:42,739
go and check out Veritas and and and you

3805
03:01:46,750 --> 03:01:44,510
know listen to all of your new stuff as

3806
03:01:50,229 --> 03:01:46,760
well as your archives very simple just

3807
03:01:52,420 --> 03:01:50,239
go to very task radio.com also like us

3808
03:01:54,219 --> 03:01:52,430
on Facebook I interact with our

3809
03:01:56,889 --> 03:01:54,229
listeners there but just very tes

3810
03:01:59,110 --> 03:01:56,899
radio.com we're only subscriber base we

3811
03:02:01,210 --> 03:01:59,120
have no sponsors only people like you

3812
03:02:03,670 --> 03:02:01,220
folks listening either ones that keep

3813
03:02:05,860 --> 03:02:03,680
the truth going thank you so much for

3814
03:02:08,320 --> 03:02:05,870
all that you do my friend and let's not

3815
03:02:11,440 --> 03:02:08,330
take so long to get you on the next time

3816
03:02:13,830 --> 03:02:11,450
and hopefully I'll be able to get things

3817
03:02:16,269 --> 03:02:13,840
set up and we'll get you finally on

3818
03:02:19,090 --> 03:02:16,279
coast this weekend and then of course

3819
03:02:21,160 --> 03:02:19,100
I'll go over to Veritas and absolutely

3820
03:02:24,250 --> 03:02:21,170
not you have to go to very it's been an

3821
03:02:26,019 --> 03:02:24,260
honor Jimmy doing a great job love your

3822
03:02:27,910 --> 03:02:26,029
stuff and end-use one of the people that

3823
03:02:29,500 --> 03:02:27,920
I'd like to emulate as well thank you so

3824
03:02:31,090 --> 03:02:29,510
much Mel be safe out there my friend

3825
03:02:34,479 --> 03:02:31,100
then I'll give you a call tomorrow first

3826
03:02:37,420 --> 03:02:34,489
thing you - Thank You Mel Mel fàbregas

3827
03:02:42,340 --> 03:02:37,430
again Veritas is very simple Veritas

3828
03:02:44,710 --> 03:02:42,350
radio.com and again all subscriber based

3829
03:02:46,660 --> 03:02:44,720
over there so take the time to go and

3830
03:02:47,860 --> 03:02:46,670
check it out all the archives are over

3831
03:02:51,790 --> 03:02:47,870
there as well

3832
03:02:54,219 --> 03:02:51,800
Mel fàbregas so with that Mel thank you

3833
03:02:56,290 --> 03:02:54,229
for going into overtime with me and I've

3834
03:02:59,860 --> 03:02:56,300
got to get out of here we took it to the

3835
03:03:00,310 --> 03:02:59,870
absolute bloody end tomorrow night on

3836
03:03:01,961 --> 03:03:00,320
the

3837
03:03:05,890 --> 03:03:01,971
show we have rattles and we're gonna do

3838
03:03:07,270 --> 03:03:05,900
an eclipse a total eclipse recap I do

3839
03:03:08,770 --> 03:03:07,280
want to see all of your pictures and

3840
03:03:11,230 --> 03:03:08,780
your stories we'll do all of that

3841
03:03:13,900 --> 03:03:11,240
tomorrow we're gonna have Brad on he was

3842
03:03:15,551 --> 03:03:13,910
up in Idaho he got the total eclipse

3843
03:03:17,980 --> 03:03:15,561
that's what we're gonna do tomorrow

3844
03:03:20,070 --> 03:03:17,990
night and again Thursday night Ralph

3845
03:03:22,660 --> 03:03:20,080
Ellis will be here

3846
03:03:25,421 --> 03:03:22,670
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3847
03:03:28,511 --> 03:03:25,431
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3848
03:03:30,150 --> 03:03:28,521
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3849
03:03:32,830 --> 03:03:30,160
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3850
03:03:36,520 --> 03:03:32,840
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3851
03:03:39,940 --> 03:03:36,530
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3852
03:03:44,171 --> 03:03:39,950
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3853
03:03:49,530 --> 03:03:44,181
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3854
03:03:54,461 --> 03:03:52,841
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3855
03:03:56,110 --> 03:03:54,471
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03:03:58,301 --> 03:03:56,120
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3857
03:04:00,160 --> 03:03:58,311
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3858
03:04:01,631 --> 03:04:00,170
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3859
03:04:04,060 --> 03:04:01,641
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3860
03:04:06,791 --> 03:04:04,070
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3861
03:04:09,520 --> 03:04:06,801
Church follow me on twitter @ JT radio

3862
03:04:12,340 --> 03:04:09,530
until tomorrow night everybody be safe

3863
03:04:17,840 --> 03:04:12,350
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